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Author | Topic: this is from a doctor..thought you might like it. | ||
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note the last 3 paragraphs********* Q & A: Steroids and the Liver Question:
SGPT is fairly specific to the liver, whereas SGOT is found in other organs like muscles. Therefore, it is important to note that elevated SGOT can sometimes be seen after a good workout, when the muscles have been releasing and transferring bio-chemicals. So we see that SGOT can be elevated just because of intense muscular activity. Another thing to remember is that these enzymes will rise when almost any drug is taken by the patient. I have seen the SGPT go to two times normal when patients take four tetracycline capsules! So to partly answer the question, I would say that almost all drugs are somewhat "toxic" to the liver, in that there's a certain amount of work the liver does to remove the drugs from the system. By convention, doctors will stop medications if liver enzymes approach three times normal - just as a precaution. But the most important consideration here that we should underline is that the relative "liver toxicity" of anabolic steroids that are injectable and oil-based is generally not a major consideration, because these compounds are basically metabolized the same as the natural testosterone that is already in the body. However, we may see liver enzyme increases just because the liver is working to remove these steroids, the same as it does any other foreign chemical. It's oral steroids, that are 17-alkylated, that are "liver toxic" or burden the liver in a dose-related manner, and my experience is that the actual toxicity is somewhat exaggerated. However, for patients on steroid therapy, I usually recommend injectable steroids to reduce potential wear on the liver. And while these aren't actually toxic in the truest sense of the word, I recommend "cycling" all therapeutically-used anabolic steroids, with breaks between cycles, to give the body a rest. [This message has been edited by timac (edited October 04, 2000).] [This message has been edited by timac (edited October 05, 2000).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Good info bro. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Nice job Bro, we need to et more things like this out in front of the naysayers!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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this part is real interesting: "It's oral steroids, that are 17-alkylated, that are "liver toxic" or burden the liver in a dose-related manner, and my experience is that the actual toxicity is somewhat exaggerated." it makes me wanna go get some dbol and halo right now! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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I was considering not having the abombs in my next course and upping the test instead to give my liver a bit of a break. Maybee for the next 2 courses. This has just re-assured me that I'm doing the right thing. Thanks 4 a great post. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Nice post, timac. I've read that anadrol is the only AS conclusively demonstrated to cause liver CA. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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GREAT POST. GOOD INFO,THANX TIMAC. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Thanks, Good INFO for all to read.. ------------------ " TAKE IT SERIOUS OR GO HOME ! " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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