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 Here is the BEST cycle for first-timers...
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 41 |
Week 1-4: 500mg Sust250 300mg Deca 50mg ReforvitB ed (for 20 days; 1cc am, 1cc pm) assuming 25mg/ml (next 10 days cut back to only 25mg) 50mg Clomid eod Week 4-6: Week 6&7: Week 8: Week 9: *NOTE*: it is recommended that you take 4 Clenbuterol(or T3Cytomel) per day during weeks 4,6,&8. This whole cycle costs $400 + shipping, but I AM NOT SOURCE so don't ask me! I am just posting my first cycle which was recommended to me by someone who has been hitting it for 15 years. This cycle will make you a respect commanding muthfucka!!! I went from 6'1" 190 (13% BF) to 6'1" 220 (9% BF) I only lost 7 lbs of it after the cycle...that was several months ago. Still 214 with 17" guns! One other thing, I only set into this to do ONE cycle, so keep that in mind if you plan on abusing these drugs. Beleive me, they do bite back!     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 208 |
umm ok. my first cycle included about half of what yours did and I gained the same amount of weight. That is not the perfect cycle for a beginner in my opinion considering I payed about half what you did. I did a T-200/ Laurabolin cycle for my first. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 208 |
I have a feeling your going to get hammered from a bunch of people on this one. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 41 |
Like I said, it was my first and only cycle. Maybe I paid too much. Maybe it isn't a good cycle in some opinions. I only know what I saw while doing the cycle. If someone wants to rip into about this post, that is their choice. I am only posting my experiences. maybe I should not have called it the best first cycle. But in my opinion, after researching for 6 months, it was the most cost effective AND safest (getting the most gains vs undesired effects) I also had 15 yrs of experience to fall back on because my uncle is a professional bodybuilder. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 41 |
If you could only see my before and after pics. you'd be amazed! i am down to 7%bf now. not saying that your cycle wasnt good. i only know what mine did for me! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 208 |
Ok thats better. It does look like a good cycle though. Post your pics man. Let see your results?? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 514 |
I'm sorry but that is not the best cycle for a first timer. The problem with a newbie is that he does not know his sensitivities. You have not only flooded his system with two hard androgens, but you have also put deca into that cycle which carries a risk of progesterone induced gyno at the same time. So let's say that the newbie is taking all that you have recommended. Suddenly he has painful, puffy nipples. We have ourselves a dilemma here.....does the newbie discontinue the deca and stop the progesterone, or does he simply fight the estrogen with Nolvadex or Arimidex? He has no idea. At worst, he could stop the deca and continue on with the androgens plus an anti-estrogen. But even then, he may still be sensitive to the 500+30. So my stance is that while it worked for you, to make it the gospel of general advice is a really irresponsible idea. The best thing for a newbie to do is to start off small with one AS and THEN stack or increase dosages as time goes on. Ask anyone who has experienced bad sides, and they will tell you the same thing. I've seen plenty during my years in the gym....and the guys who always got hurt listened to the biggest guy who recommended Captain Insane-O right off the bat. Not that your cycle is bad, just better suited for someone on their 2nd or 3rd cycles. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 514 |
Bump so that I may educate more newbies by showing how bad info may take shape, even by an M.D. I advised my share of med students who worked out in my old gym, so I know first hand that AS and its proper use is not taught in med school. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 208 |
I told you that you'd get hammered.. sorry.... | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 41 |
I do not see it as getting hammered. It is good to get many opinions about info that you post. That is how we learn. You are right Bchemist, we do not learn all that much about AS in medical school, however, my background is in biochemistry, and pharm-neuropharm is a passion of mine...not saying that I was right in posting that with that title. I will not do that again. Thanks for the enlightenment! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 140 |
that's not the best cycle for newbies... maybe it worked for you but just sust/deca would work for many... in my opinion the best first cycle would be sust/dbol/deca and that's what i plan to do.... or mabe EQ instead of the DECA! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 140 |
and oh yah.. why sust for only 4 weeks... there's no point | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 168 |
OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH
a FEW POINTS ALL THE DOSSES ARE FUCKED, TO MUCH MONEY. AND WHO ARE YOU TO POST THE ULTIMATE NEWBIE CYCLE. I'M CALLING BULLSHIT IF YOU NEED HELP JUST ASK ME OR ANYONE ELSE WE WILL ALL HELP. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 106 |
3 weeks of primo at 200mgs won't really do anything---not enough, not long enough, same for the sust doses. But it sounds like it did ok for you there dude (prob. because it was your 1st cycle)---congrats. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 41 |
just saw the error above...did have 250mg sus for the next 3 weeks. like i said above, i should not have posted this post with this title, but this cycle worked VERY well for me. |
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posted October 04, 2000 08:40 PM