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 test while cutting
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 214 |
To get really lean would it or wouldn't it be beneficial to have 1 cc a week of sust with this cycle? 300mg/wk EQ, 300mg/wk Winny, Triacana 4000mcg day (thyroid medication)and e/c/a about every other day. Real good diet with lower carbs and lower calories and frequent cardio (4 times a week). The sust is on its 6 week and was looking to stop it as I wanted no water retention or more bigness just hard lean quality look. Like I said the sust has been at 2 cc's for the first 4 weeks and then 1 cc last 2 weeks, continue or not?     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 916 |
If your looking to get really lean, test probably isn't that advisable. If you do decide to use it, you should probably go with a fast acting one like propionate or suspension so you can better control the water retention. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 830 |
Test is great for cutting!!! If you are competing then use a diuretic the last 2 days... for the water retention. If not competing and the water is noticeable take some natural diurectic like dandelion | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 214 |
more opinions please I got one it is great and one it is probably not that advisable. It is only 1 cc sust every 7 to 10 days. I was thinking it would really hold the muscle along with the EQ and winny even with a reduced caloric intake? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
Test will help preserve muscle while cutting. It will probably cause water retention, which is good for muscle but doesn't look real sweet. I would agree with DREXX. With a high protein reduced calorie diet I think it is possible to add muscle while dropping fat. Hope it helps bro. Peace! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 147 |
You'll get absolutely raw. I was thinking of doing a Sust/Winny cycle later this year. I need to gain about 15lb. but if I just wanted to get lean I would take Test Prop/Winny. But Real Parabolan will get you harder than nothing else. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 481 |
I'm doing 600mg enanthate/week and 50mg winstrol/day during the cutting portion of my cycle. Cutting drugs got their nick-names because they don't promote as much water retention during the severe dieting phases that bodybuilders use near their shows. It just makes more sense to me for one to use the drug that will allow you to retain the most muscle during a calorie restricted period...i.e. Testosterone. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 193 |
bchemist thats the best point on cutting ive heard in a while, and exactly right. when used properly test can vastly help your cutting or restricted diet. im using prop right now, heard suspension is the best though! ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 13 |
i agree with bchemist. taking test may make you hold water but it almost preserves the muscular gains that u have made prior to the cutting phase. holding water is only a concern if you are doing a show and or are already very lean (five percent or lower). keep taking the sost and keep your muscles full. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 888 |
i took test all the way up to my show. best is water based (suspension) as oil based can bloat ya even with diet though personally i diet very hard and use test prop as suspension hurts to much. last week is sodium depletion followed by carb depletion followed by water depletion so with all the depletion it balances out in the end and test works fine as do A bombs | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 214 |
No competing here just looking to get as athletic as I can. So if I diet , do cardio and stay on the above mentioned medications 1 cc of sust every 8 days won't make that much of a difference in how lean I get, won't cause any water retention worthy of worrying about? | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 10 |
I am going to use 600mg/wk of Enathate along with some ECA and maybe T3. Test is a GREAT all around drug..cutting or bulking. I up the millagrams when bulking and lower it a bit when cutting. I think you'd be better off using 500mg/week. 250mg/week is more of normal maintainance dosage. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 70 |
Test will be fine, but go a shorter acting test. IronMike | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 830 |
Why a shorter acting ester Iron Mike? Just curius... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 74 |
Drexx, when you use esters that release test slow, you will have more water retention. The eters that release it relatively fast cause very little water retention. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 185 |
Test is best for holding size on a diet. Anadrol is great too. From what I hear, most pros use heavy androgens pre-contest and load up on lasix to drop water. Palumbo recomends 1000mg test per week while cutting and it doesnt appear to make him to hold too much water or fat. I posted a few times last week about this to find some real-life experience in losing the water the last week before the show. Where were you guys? sniff If anyone has used 1000mg per week test up until contest, please email me - Im curious. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1451 |
my last cutting cycle was 300mg propinate 4 dbols eod 600mg ganabol per week cynomel and salbutomel worked well for me |
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posted October 04, 2000 02:31 PM