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Primo57

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posted October 04, 2000 12:00 AM

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A bro at my gym has gotten his hands on
these little viles of ATP from "someplace",
and is claiming that it giving him the
best pre-workout pumps. I want to tell
him that this method of delivery is complete
bullshit and that ATP cannot be added
to to the body this way....but I'm not
positive that this is true. If it is
true wouldn't the extra ATP inhibit Glycolysis, and thus reduce your natural
ATP outflow? Help strengthen my argument
if you know any additional info.


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Dr.Atlas

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posted October 04, 2000 12:36 AM

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I'm pretty sure thay a high-energy molecule like adenosine tri-phosphate wouldn't survive the GI tract to be absorbed. Hell, it wouldn't even survive storage long. Would be interesting to learn the composition of the stuff though...Peace!

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Natural Wonder

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posted October 04, 2000 12:45 AM

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I asked my Biology professor and he told me it's bullshit. I could remember/understand exactly why but Mr. PhD. said so


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 04, 2000 12:49 AM

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If anyone could answer this,it would be cockdezl-You out there sir?


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BigJay81

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posted October 04, 2000 12:51 AM

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I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD WORK IT WOULD JUST SKIP THE PROCESS OF YOUR BODY PRODUCING ATP BY ITS SELF. I WILL LOOK UPON THIS MATTER


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MAXOUT

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posted October 04, 2000 01:36 AM

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The half life is so short why bother


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WCP

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posted October 04, 2000 02:35 AM

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I have no clue how this could be pure ATP

There would have to be a method of release for it not be be digested very quickly, and what if or any kind of transport for it?..did he say..or is it just supposed to be pure ATP?

Im not buying it just yet..

Smells like a sailor's wife's fingers...fishy,
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BigJay81

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posted October 04, 2000 02:50 AM

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"Anabolic Journal" Where might this be found Twisted_steel??


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Twisted_Steel

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posted October 04, 2000 03:00 AM

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Ya, I agree with these monkeys, orally administered ATP wouldn't be possible unless were talking about some interesting new carrier or something which will inhibit enzmatic breakdown within the GI tract.

However, how many of you knew about injectable ATP. Got this from a recent edition of the Anabolic Journal. "The cessation of anabolic steroids initiates several catabolic processes within the body. One of these is the ATP-Ubiquitin-proteasome pathway. Increased extra cellular ATP has demonstrated the ability to put breaks on this process by decreasing metabolic acidosis and increasing protein synthesis'

Duh, continuing to the good stuff.

"The favorite version of this product is called "Tridenosen", from Australia. A phenomenal product that really makes a difference, its intended use is for racehorses and grey hounds.

It contains 2mg of ATP per ml, as well as nicotinic acid, magnesium aspartate, potassium aspartate, DI-isopropylamine dichloroacetate, selenium, arginin, and lysine" WHEW

All users of this product report less muscle soreness, improved recovery and dramatically increased energy demonstrated by increased weights/repititions.

So if you bastards get the Aussie hookup for this stuff. Bring me some!!!!!!!!

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted October 04, 2000 03:17 AM

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It sounds as if it actually does what creatine"supposedly"does,hehheh.


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Primo57

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posted October 04, 2000 01:21 PM

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That's what I figured, the product is actually orally administered. I took a
closer look at the vial, it is made by a
company called Sigma and is derived from
equine muscle. It also says minimum 99% crystalline microrefined in suspension.
Most Sigma products are made for research
purposes and it is probably used for experiments dealing with bacterial growth,
etc. Interesting, but to sum things up,
he's still wasting his cash.


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tygerman

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posted October 04, 2000 02:27 PM

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It is intended to be taken sub-ligual (spelling) which means under the tounge. The idea is that it will be absorbed through the mucosal membrane of the mouth directly into the bloodstream. I bought one bottle and it seams to help a little with work-out endurance but for 30 + bucks a pop I think I will skip it next time.


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