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Tri

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posted October 03, 2000 10:21 PM

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Any one have any info on Ttokkyo brand AS from Mexico?


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Gord

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posted October 03, 2000 10:42 PM

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Ive heard both good and bad. I'm still not sure what to think about thier products.


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bb4424

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posted October 03, 2000 10:44 PM

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search it....some good posts in the last few weeks.


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kychad

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posted October 03, 2000 10:54 PM

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What is it you need to know? All of their products are 100% legit and come at a good price. Alot of people I know are getting great results with them. They all tested out legit by LOD.


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swole

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posted October 03, 2000 11:09 PM

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i am taking there test cyp. right now and im loving it!!

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Tri

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posted October 04, 2000 10:47 PM

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Thanks for the info. I have always stuck with the Denkall products, but may add some Ttokkyo to my ost next time.

Tri


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niko1015

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posted October 05, 2000 12:14 AM

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Not so much as personal experiance, but my boy's are on it and they are lovin it.
I have 2 bottles of their deca for my Cycle in Nov.
I will post the results.
Peace


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AS

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posted October 05, 2000 04:26 AM

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sorry if this is a stupid question but what is LOD?


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YAKUZA

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posted October 05, 2000 05:01 AM

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Not what, but who. He is the person that had the Ttokkyo products tested.


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IVANHOE

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posted October 05, 2000 03:07 PM

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This info is from www.ttokkyo.com.mx

To: Customers, friends and competition.

Since Ttokkyo�s Lab, started the marketing of the new products the rumors positives and negatives are circulating, and I want to talk about them for the benefit of all concerned you, me, and the products. Your criticism regarding Ttokkyo�s product is my responsability, and you should know that our company is not ignoring it.

1. Believe it or not. The Deca 300 is real is legit, is not fake, you can check with a knowledgable chemist, the Deca can easily be made to 300 mg/ml. Ou Deca doesn�t contain 50, 100 or 200 mg/ml, The first batch (N-120 Exp. Date Jul, 02) according to our own Q.C. lab, contains 95.2% (285 mg Nandrolone Decanoate/ml),according to the independent lab ARJ # of analysis 77-00ZA is 93.4% (280.2 mg/ml). The product must contain at least 90% (270 mg/ml).

Opportunities become sucesses when action is taken.

2. You can check the Lab test results in this home page, not only for Deca 300 but also for other product, the analysis was made not only by our own Q.C. Lab, but also by A.R.J. Lab, address: Cafetal # 60 Colonia Granjas M�xico C.P. 08400 Tles. (5) 56500600, (5) 5650 0508 Fax (5)56484654 M�xico Distrito Federal., is an independent lab approved by the mexican government to verify the analysis of the mexican industry. The Chemist in charge (owner) of this Approved QCLab is Marcos Gil Rodr�guez and they have been in this business for more than 30 years. If you have any doubt just call them, they are not fake they are real. I realize the results for our competition are not what they want to hear, buy they are in.


2. To the coward that is hiding back to the keybord, please, ethical standards are key component of professionalism.:

a) You said " Dr. Molina was fired from a job (for what reason I do not know)", let me explain, I was never fire in any company, I spent almost 12 years in Smithkline Beecham (SKB)as Operations Director, until the animal health division was sold to Pfizer Inc., so, I received the invitation from Ing. Gonzalez General Director of Pfizer M�xico Inc. to work for them on the production plant located in Toluca M�xico, of course I didn�t accept. Also let me comment, I worked for the Universidad Nacional Aut�noma de M�xico (UNAM) nearly 10 years as a profesor and left the UNAM when I was moved to SKB. Also I worked for the Mexican government in charge of the National Veterinary Assay Laboratory in Tecamac M�xico, where I had the opportunity to participate in the technical agreement between M�xico and Japan for almost 5 years having the fortune to get post grade in the National Institute of Animal Health in Tsukuba Japan. Due to my close relation with the Japanese people I put the name TTokkyo to my own lab. Also I got a postgrade in finance at the Instituto Tecnologico Aut�nomo de M�xico (ITAM). Please keep well informed I was never fired.

b) Our real company address is not based in a house in M�xico City, it is located in the south part of M�xico: San Francisco 1384 third floor Colonia Del Valle C.P. 03100 Tel (5) 5757624 fax (5) 53350079. M�xico Distrito Federal. It is not a house is a building. The warehouse is located in Salaverry # 1204 Colonia Zacatenco, C.P. 07300, Tels (5) 5860322 y (5) 5860709 in M�xico Distrito Federal and, it is not a House is a warehouse only for TTokkyo. The production plant is located in the Morelos State: Carretera Yautepec # 85 C.P. 62540 Tels (735) 78015 and (735)782 11 Morelos M�xico.

c) We had never heard about a problems with the "K" involving horses, and if you think that TTokkyo productions standards are very bad let me remind you that after severals quality control audits, we are trustwortwy company (maquilador confiable) and we have the documents (if doubt) from Smithkline Beechman, Pfizer, Novartis Animal Health Inc., Hoechst Rousell Vet and Laboratorios Farmac�uticos "Chinoin".

Developing a highly effective team is an enduring goal for successful companies like Ttokkyo, we must strive to integrate only the most knowledgeable, skilled, and talented players into our operation.

And if you know the aussie is the best on the market we respect that, our thinking is that making negative comments about competitors inevitably lowers our credibility. We never want to appear to be "bad mouthing" the competition.

Our persistence in maintaining standards for excellence will beat the competition. I know those negative rumors are not last challenge we face, only the most recent.
3. The people who is worried about our Deca marketing, many professionals wrongly believe marketing tactics are the same as marketing strategies. Although interrelated, the two are distinct. Tactics are techniques used by corporate armies to secure the strategy�s goals.

To positive customers our relationship confirms that win - win situations occur when two people desire a positive result. Our commitment to customer satisfaction and quality is tangible.

We�re different, and we�re prepared to prove it to you.


Sincerely yours,

Dr. Francisco Molina
General Director


TRUTH OR NOT?

SI DE ALGO NOS VAMOS A MORIR....VAMONOS ENFERMANDO DE UNA VEZ.



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Slopain

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posted October 05, 2000 03:14 PM

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Heres what I do when Im first trying to figure out the truth, I throw away all info that comes from someone who has a reason to be biased (conflict of intrests).

It has been independently tested as very very legit. I dont know about all the mudslinging and I don't care. Make a good product for a good price and watch them grow.

Slopain


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supraman

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posted October 05, 2000 03:18 PM

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On the Deca 300 right now, but will be hard to tell how good it is due to the other 4 steroids I am taking at the same time. Out of 5 , something's gotta work!


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ajc

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posted October 05, 2000 04:32 PM

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Funny how they talk about veterinarian steroids..."Oxandrolone is very popular with men and women users".


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daveyboy

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posted October 05, 2000 04:41 PM

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i have been talking with alot of different people that are using these products and everyone that i have talked with has been very happy with the results. these products are passing the hardest test of all - the "glute test"

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ajc

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posted October 05, 2000 05:10 PM

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Check out this counterfeits page on ausvet's website. It has pictures of all of ttokkyo's products.
http://www.ausvet.com/counterfeit.htm


Is this just competitive marketing?

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Stud Monkey

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posted October 05, 2000 07:14 PM

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it's not competitive marketing, it's dirty marketing. i don't know why Ausvet has such a problem with the ttokkyo products. for the most part, both companies make good quality products. let the consumer decide which they prefer.

i just think that the tactics that ausvet is using is just scummy... it makes me not even want to use their products, regardless of the quality.


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