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gearseeker

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posted October 02, 2000 12:03 PM

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Anyone have experience cutting on a heavy "bulking" type cycle? I would be curious if lasix with a bulking cycle produces a better cosmetic effect then cutting on non-aromatizing drugs.

Last week I was the only one to respond to my own post. Come on guys - somebody has got to have experience with this.


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musclehed250

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posted October 02, 2000 01:58 PM

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I used lasix once when preparing for a show. It not only takes the water from under your skin, but it takes it out of your muscles, so you look flat!!! I liked dyazide much better!!!!It took the water from the skin and left it in the muscle, itpotassium sparing!


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gearseeker

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posted October 02, 2000 02:23 PM

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I like aldactone and aldactazide too but only with non-aromatizing drugs. I prefer lasix even though its harsh. I believe the muscle has to be dry. Losing only the water under the skin is impossible anyway. I think "dry" muscle shows more striations.

Anyone cut on a heavy test/dbol cycle or something similar?

Thanks for any input.


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gearseeker

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posted October 02, 2000 03:44 PM

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FitnessChick

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posted October 02, 2000 03:48 PM

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lasix is not something you want to take on a regular basis to cut water-use it for contest or shoot prep only---it depletes your potassium as well as your water, so you will be left looking flat often times....also it's not good for your kidneys-or heart( if you dont supplement with potassium when using)-- you can really screw yourself up if you use too much or for too long....my advice is to leave it alone unless you are prepping for something----


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gearseeker

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posted October 02, 2000 04:14 PM

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OK folks......I am very comfortable using lasix. Ive used it several times as well as about every other diuretic and Manitol (poor mans plasma espander). Im not some idiot thinking about doing test and lasix as a cycle. This will be pre-contest obviously.

Again the question is this: for pre-contest water reduction which of the following is offers a better cosmetic effect -

A - Using WV, primo, Eq, fina, etc and mild diuretics during the last 5-7 days.

or

B - Using a balls out androgen cycle: test, A50, deca, etc. Then after carbing up, drop water in the last 24-48 hours using lasix.

I understand that lasix makes the muscles flat. What most folks dont understand is pro bodybuilders muscles are flat during contest. The trick is to have so much freakin mass that when your dehydrated you still look huge.

Ill send a Christmas card to anyone with some real-life info.


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FitnessChick

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posted October 02, 2000 04:37 PM

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Ah- you didn't specify at first that it was for a contest----I thought you were just looking to use it for the purpose of water cutting after a heavy bulking cycle----something I would tell the average person is not advisable.....I have used lasix for shoot prep-very successfully--- not exactly the same as contest prep, but similar( my bf was down to 9%- pretty low for a girl.....As a female my cycles are different then yours, however the approach I used was the cautious one-Winny inj for 9 weeks prior, dieting down for the 3-4 weeks prior to,seeing how i look a few days prior to shooting--- and lasix for 2 days out-varying the doses based on how I look...if I were you I would stick with the first option-A- I always like to know how I am going to look well before hand- not just waiting for 2 days out & finding out that that lasix ain't doin' the trick- just my .02 though......I am curious to hear some other responsses to this, as i will be competing in my first BB show in April....


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The Ranger

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posted October 02, 2000 04:50 PM

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I have used Lasix quite alot, and will continue to use it regulary.

I take the 40mg tabs morning and after lunch....eat 3 to 6 nanner's a day....no probs from me....but yes, if you get carried away....and I have once....every muscle you contract cramps.....


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gearseeker

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posted October 02, 2000 05:03 PM

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Thanks for the responses!!!!!!!!!!

Ranger - were you using the typical cutting drugs(WV, EQ, primo)?

Ill try to keep this post going for a while. It doesnt seem like anyone on the amatuer level is using the bulking type cycles for pre-contest. Ive heard its very popular with pros because they keep more size. Dan Duchaine has some info on this in the BodyOpus as well. I wont compete next summer so if I dont find a ton of real-life info Ill try dieting next summer on a bulking cycle, cut with lasix and post my results.

Thanks again for the responses!


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gearseeker

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posted October 03, 2000 01:48 PM

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One last bump for any info - but it looks like this is a new idea.

Thanks for the responses.


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