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The Ranger

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posted October 01, 2000 09:00 PM

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Is there actually a benefit to spacing out injections, and increasing their frequency??

Sus 250 has 4 different Ester's:
1. Propionate
2. Phenylpropionate
3. Isocaporate
4. Decanoate

Due to the various stages of release of each individual Ester.....Is there any benefit to split up a dosage of 750 mg's per week???

If you say to keep the test levels up, explain that one....Oh, and Twisted-Steele....speak in English please.....heh heh heh.....


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Twisted_Steel

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posted October 01, 2000 09:05 PM

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Ranger, you and I both read an article written by Danny Duchaine on this issue. But, I would love to hear some of the other brothers take on the "spacing of injections".

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The Ranger

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posted October 01, 2000 09:07 PM

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swole

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posted October 01, 2000 09:08 PM

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i am a fan of spacing out injections..
not sure if it helps, i think its just mental if u ask me...

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Krusher

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posted October 01, 2000 09:10 PM

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OK, this may be a more dim-witted explanation than you're hoping for Ranger, but I'd say no, there is little point in spacing out that injection, especially if dbol is used as well. The only reason I know of for spacing out sust shots is to take advantage of the fast acting prop, but 3 shots of sust only adds up to 90mg of prop
per week, which I feel is to low to induce much growth. If the guy was taking a couple of grams of sust, that might be another story.


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1AbBIG

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posted October 01, 2000 09:12 PM

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well , if you really think about it, the shortest acting is the test prop. which has a half life of about 7-10 days. it is beleived that doing 2 injections a week will help the test prop maintain a greater level then when only injecting once a week. ex.. injecting on monday will provide 30mg test prop, then thursday comes along and the test prop is probaly at about 18mg, then by monday it is at about 5mg, thats once injection a week. now monday 30mg thencomes thursday time for the second injection now we have about 45mg of test prop , monday rolls around and we have about 25 mg .. soas long as we do multiple injections, the test prop will maintain a greater level on a mg to mg basis. i hope what i said makes since.

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Dutch

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posted October 01, 2000 09:17 PM

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I'll give it a try:

sustanon is designed to release a steady flow of test for a couple of weeks. So if one would take the "theraputic" (sp) dose, there is no need to space out the injections.

But if one would take, lets say, 1250 mg a week, the dose of fast releasing esters can be to much and cause side effects. So spacing out than would make sence..

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timac

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posted October 01, 2000 09:18 PM

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it completely depends on how advanced you are. you can take 250-1000 mgs a week, but it depends on you. Injections should be at least once a week to keep test levels stable.


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aahepp

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posted October 01, 2000 09:24 PM

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Let me throw my 2 pennies out there. Why was Sus configured with 4 diffretn esters to release at diffrent periods?? If not mistake is was to "try" to keep test levels steady while the solution ran it course. That way you do not get the "peaks and valleys" affect. Hence if you do and injection today. You get the first spike from the first ester realeaseing 2 days after the injection and so on. If you was to inject another one during the week you would cause a seperate spike in your test levels. This is my assuption. Warm....cold. Who knows. But I don't like the pain all during the week so all at once for me.


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The Ranger

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posted October 01, 2000 10:28 PM

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Hardcore4Evr

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posted October 02, 2000 12:41 AM

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Started my first injections today.......and i can say im gonna be a big fan of injecting only once per week. Did 850mg Aratest, & 600mg Ultragan. Split the Aratest in half, and injected in each cheek. Same with the Ultragan.......and that was 3cc's in each freakin leg! But i did it pretty slow, so im not in any pain at all. Kinda burned a bit goin in, but nothing big. Walk in the park. Throw in about 6 Dbol tabs today, and im on my way to "Growthville".

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B_Funk

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posted October 02, 2000 12:58 AM

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I think it depend on the amount being used. 500mg and down should be done once a week. 750mg and up, I'd probably split it up, but that's just my opinion.

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ironmaster

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posted October 02, 2000 03:50 AM

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Alright, Twisted, you just cost me 40 bucks - the least you could do is tell me what D.D. said without making me look it up...lol I always went with the once a week approach, but this time around I'm injecting an amp every other day (eq on the in-between days), dbol every day, just to see if I notice a difference. I don't always trust everything I read. Instead I experiment on myself. Then my answers are based on personal experience.


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Anabolicum Mister

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posted October 02, 2000 07:54 AM

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Injection volume can have an effect on the pharamcokinetics (i.e. absorbtion rate) of the drug and also effect its bioavailability. Therefore, I believe there could be some merit to the spacing of injections.


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