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Curious II

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posted October 01, 2000 04:07 PM

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How do you think that the Olympic Committee decideds who gets busted for steroids and who doesn't. Here's the thing...at least about 80% of all the athletes in the olympics use or have used steroids or similar compounds. If you don't believe this then you are naive. Yet only a select few get busted for them. I believe there is a reason for this. If no one ever got busted then people would believe that they were getting treated like they were ignorant. Especially considering that they supposedly test for illegal substances. If everyone that used got busted then their would be no olympics. But if only a few individuals get busted... then it makes the olympics appear to the public to be for the most part clean..and those that aren't are getting caught. So I ask...how do they decide who gets to be the "bad guy". Is it cause they piss someone off, is it because it's their countries turn? It's funny how the Austrailians didn't get busted for anything. I would be pissed off if I were the athletes who got busted. I would make it my own personal vendetta to spill the beans on the whole thing.
Still...I love how people want these events to be clean. How they want to crack down on this shit. Yet these same people would quit watching these events if they were drug free because no world records would be broken and it would be boring to watch. Just food for thought...

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Pharm Animal

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posted October 01, 2000 05:56 PM

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definately food for thought...they use the same method in the IFBB regarding diuretics

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bber2000

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posted October 01, 2000 06:04 PM

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GH will solve all the damn drug testing problem.


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ColumboWeiser

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posted October 01, 2000 06:08 PM

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It's a lot of politics, but if you look at the local and state level NPC bodybuilding show, most don't test and the ones that do are easy to beat, if you are smart...There are ussually ways around testing, but not always. For example, I could take sust up to three months before a tested show, then take dbol at 30mg a day until a month out while dieting. Then the last month I would take t3 xenadrine and clenbuteral...I would stop the t3 after 21 days, run the xenadrine until the night of the show and the clen four days out, I bet you money that I would test negitive! See by doing a cycle like this I kept more mass than the other all natural guys entering the show, plus with the t3 and clen I'm now hard as a rock and vascular as hell

point is sometimes people fuck up and get caught and others are just dumb, or scape goats.

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cardenaz

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posted October 01, 2000 06:13 PM

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well people get busted during the games because people who's really good always have a very smart quemist behind them. And people who does not can not figure the cleaning process. And as for your comments regarding atletes being dirty and use of drugs during these games, well you are wrong because to be there you need talent dedication and very hard training regarless of whatever you have to do on top of that to back it of on the field. I bet you use steroids to bench and squat what any athlete who's clean can do that for reps ha ha ha, so keep your fucking anger towards these gifted athletes and please think before opening your mouth. TO all the people who thinks olympic atletes are all drug up well some are but not everybody. So you all know if you ever want to be a very sucessfull bodybuilding you need to drug up and train your ass very hard by having dedication and dicipline. Bodybuilding will be as on the olympics in athens on 2004, so I would like to see the size of these monsters on the stage. not big as usuall because the drug testing. see you
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Curious II

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posted October 01, 2000 06:17 PM

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Quite a few people probably think they can slide on through and get by with it since everyone does it. Ol' C.J. probably thought he was immune. I wonder why he would get caught with nandrolone though. That sounds like pure stupidity to me. To be using one of the longest lasting steroids out there before something like this. One of my profs said that they have found traces of nandralone in athletes blood streams up to 7 years after they last used it. That's pretty extreme but it gives you an idea of how bad it is as a pre-contest drug. But...oh yeah, he said it was in an iron supplement. That's about as lame as an excuse as you can get. I need to get me some of that iron supplement. I bet Joe Weider makes it. hah hah

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Valdez

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posted October 01, 2000 06:28 PM

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Your full of bullshit: they all are tested and all will get BUSTED unless they can fake the test. why would they strip a young female gymnast (13-17) for using psuedoephedrine??????


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ColumboWeiser

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posted October 01, 2000 06:31 PM

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I can understand why he used deca, It increases healing and promotes tendon and legament health, I think that he was taking some deca to help his knee, or at least prolong the time until surgery was needed. I also think he thought that once he had surgery, from the time he has it until he can compete again would be around the time the deca would be mostly outta his system. The games in which he ws competing was not an olympic sanctioned event and did not use IOC labs for testing the blood or urine, so I think the IOC has no ground to stand on...I also agree that drugs will do very little for you unless you are willing to sacrifice all to get to the top and be the best. Those athelets do bust there asses, but without some drugs they cannot compete competively (sp) against the rest of the elite in there perspective field...I think you do what you need to do to win,,,
just my opinion...

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ColumboWeiser

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posted October 01, 2000 07:17 PM

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anyone else agree with me?

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Curious II

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posted October 01, 2000 11:36 PM

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Ahh...very intelligent comback valdez. I guess you took debate in highschool. Have you ever been involved in Olympic drug testing? Well, I guess I just figured that you have being that you responded with a sound...your full of bullshit. Enlighten me as to why I am full of bullshit?

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the truth

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posted October 02, 2000 04:23 AM

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What people are failing to keep in mind about Hunter is he did not fail an IOC administered drug test. He failed a federation drug test (4 of them, actually) and then sat the Olympics out because he would have tested positive in an IOC test. Since discipline on the federation level is discretionary, many athletes use federation testing to determine clearance times of what they are taking or to see if a drug like nandrolone can still be detected before going into competition.

Hunter took deca to help his knees after reconstructive surgery.

To the guy who thinks most Olympic athletes are clean because they're tested, get a grip on reality.


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Curious II

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posted October 02, 2000 12:21 PM

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Now see...that is an intelligent response and it makes sense. Thank you. I still love how he called it an iron supplement.

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dirkpitt51

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posted October 02, 2000 01:02 PM

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columboweiser,
regarding your first post in this thread, is your real name skip lacour?


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ALL-NATURAL-JUICE

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posted October 02, 2000 01:39 PM

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i agree the olypics would be boring if they busted everyone for usage.


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Curious II

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posted October 02, 2000 01:52 PM

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Cardenaz...I am not angry, being a devout user myself. This is a question, not an angry statement...so think next time before opening YOUR mouth. Steroids make up a very small amount of what goes into being an olympic athlete. But when it comes to being an olympic athlete, every little bit counts. You have to be at the top of the "food chain" to win. That means great genetics, great training, and good chemistry. Like I said before, anyone else who thinks otherwise is naive. Again, I didn't say this in anger or say that is what makes them winners...that is not the point of this post. Please pay attention next time. Maybe after you have been here for a little while you will learn that.

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MS

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posted October 02, 2000 02:06 PM

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It is childish to think there is a political agenda behind who gets tested and who doesn't. The reason the Australians all passed their tests is because for the last couple of years Australia has implemented random and out of contest testing on potential Olympic competitors. Keep in mind these samples will have been sent to the Sydney IOC lab for analysis (it's been up and running for two years). Most other countries do not have access to such high-tech and sensitive testing methods. So they think their athletes will pass (based on some local lab result).

Everyone thinks that all the athletes cheat. But the IOC is putting more and more pressure on all the federations to perform random out of competition testing. In my country, the equivalent of the NPC now requires bodybuilders to register their intent to qualify for international events at least 6 months before the qualifier. They must then be available for random testing during the 6 months leading up to that event. For now, if you can afford it you can take hGH and IGF-2 etc.... but the IOC labs are working on tests for these substances too. And ColumboWeiser would have failed his test because of the Xenadrine, just like that poor gymnast got busted for pseudoephedrine. The Sydney lab can also detect most AS longer than the older labs. I know a guy that was off of Sust for 4 months pre-test and still got caught. The IOC basically sucks. I'll bet no one on this board will disagree with that statement!


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MS

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posted October 02, 2000 03:04 PM

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http://www.thinkmuscle.com/newsletter/007.htm
Has an interesting article from the other side of the coin.


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barney

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posted October 02, 2000 09:08 PM

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i agree with MS, the only reason Australian athletes didnt test positive was because NONE had any drugs left in their system, the testing over here out of competition is just as heavy as while competing, Ian Thorpe has been tested over 20 times this year, im not saying that none of the aussies havent used drugs, they are just smarter (than all these dumb fucks using nandrolan) about when and what they use.


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MS

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posted October 02, 2000 09:23 PM

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And the IOC estimates that 50% of ALL the athletes that went to the games were tested within the last 3 weeks, so it's not exactly like their picking on a small group of athletes.


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Curious II

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posted October 02, 2000 09:42 PM

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Are the austrailians really that much more intelligent. Seems kinda coincidental that none of their athletes got busted. Then again, all of this is just an opinion and nothing else.

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