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G-Man

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posted September 29, 2000 11:46 AM

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O.K. I was thinking that i don't want to get that much bigger because i am only 5'9 and don't want to look like a roid boy. Anyway i was thinking of doing 1cc a week of Test 250mg/ml for ten weeks then do 10 weeks of 200mg/ml a week of Deca. Do you think i can put on some quality muscle and keep most of it? Let's say a good solid ten pounds. Thanks for your advice!!!!

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Jae

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posted September 29, 2000 11:51 AM

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That would be sad. To use juice but not look like it.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 29, 2000 11:51 AM

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Are you saying you're going to do back-to-back consecutive 10 week cycles with no rest in between?


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WCP

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posted September 29, 2000 11:52 AM

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Personally, I like looking like a "roid boy" especially in the winter when I blow up like a balloon.

I would stack the two, and not do them seprately.

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ulter

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posted September 29, 2000 11:56 AM

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I won't try to slap you around to get you to change your mind about how you look, that's your business..Put them together or don't do it, and don't eat as much as you would trying to bulk and you'll get the look I think you want.


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G-Man

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posted September 29, 2000 11:56 AM

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Yes, back to back. I have heard that long cycles are working for people. It would give me time to put on muscle and keep it on. Instead of blowing up and then losing half of it. I am not knocking the roid look at all. I just think i am not that tall so i don't want to look like a bull dog,if you guys know what i mean. I am looking for the Marky Mark look, or like the Olympic gymnist look. Anybody else have an opinion?

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 29, 2000 11:59 AM

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Why not just do one 10-12 week cycle of primobolan depot?It will give you the results you're looking for without the sides.5 months straight is not a good idea at all in my book bro,way too long.


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G-Man

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posted September 29, 2000 12:03 PM

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I figure they are two seperate AS one Androgenic the other Anabolic so as far as sides doing it back to back i don't think it would be bad. I mean compared to what a probodybuilder takes that they have a bottle of each a day for years straight. I should try and get some Primo. I have never done it, i have heard you get some serious headaches.

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DREXX

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posted September 29, 2000 12:36 PM

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I have done Deca only and its not good.

Look up the work Deca Dick

Always have test and deca together to prevent deca dick...

With 250mg of Test and 200mg of Deca a week for 10 weeks you wont gain too much...Don't Worry!

You will probably gain about 20lbs and lose 5lbs but this is on almost 3 months so no one will accuse you of juicing!


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 29, 2000 12:46 PM

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The most disturbing thing to me about doing a five month cycle is that you can really cause some long-lasting hormonal imbalances that take a lot longer to recover from than if you were to stay on for a standard 8 to 10 week cycle.You are suppressing your natural test levels for quite an extended amount of time,and for me,that's a little more than I would want to gamble with.


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gearseeker

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posted September 29, 2000 12:57 PM

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Huck - I cant find any new info that leads me to believe that long cycles are dangerous (toxic drugs excluded). If you have any new info on this please email me.

In my research and experience, you need to take steroids for as long as you want to look like an ape. If you dont want to yo-yo your weight/strength gains, you bridge your cycles-or-never come off.

I think at some time, people will look back at the years they cycled, and kick themself in the ass for wasting that time. I will stay on untill I finish competing in a few years.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 29, 2000 01:13 PM

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Gearseeker:I'm not saying that it's anywhere near"life-threatening",and I understand why a competitor like yourself will take the risk.But there is evidence to suggest that the longer you shut down your natural test,the harder it is to recover it post-cycle.I believe guru Bill Roberts discusses this over on the Metamorphosis site.For a recreational lifter like myself who is just striving to improve my physique,I do not believe that it's a risk I would want to gamble with.A screwed up hormonal axis is not something I take lightly,personally.


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G-Man

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posted September 29, 2000 03:30 PM

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That is a good statement Huck but i didn't think Deca would supress my natural Test level especially at 200mg a week.That is why i didn't think it would be that bad. Cause Deca is pretty safe as far as sides go.

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andre

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posted September 29, 2000 03:36 PM

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i did 200mg/week deca and 50mg winny eod for 12 weeks. ended 3 months ago, my hormone levels are still screwed up.. it looks like deca gives me deca dick.. if i use deca and test together on my next cycle, would i still get deca dick?? I loved what deca did to me.. but I HATE deca dick man..


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HARDBALL05

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posted September 29, 2000 03:40 PM

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I'M WITH HUCK ON THIS ONE.....THINK ABOUT YOUR FUTURE AS A PARENT...DO YOU WANT ONE? DO THE 2 TOGETHER FOR 10-12 WEEKS, AND USE THE NORMAL CLOMID AND NOLVADEX, LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW THAT BY NOW, AND I THINK YOU'LL BE GOOD TO GO!

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 29, 2000 06:38 PM

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G-man deca absolutely WILL suppress your test levels,even at that dosage.The only A/S that don't disturb the testicular axis to any great degree are oxandrolone and primobolan depot.Virtually any other A/S will shut it down.


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G-Man

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posted September 29, 2000 08:25 PM

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Hey guys maybe i will try it maybe not it all depends. If i do try it i will let you guys know, and i will let you know if it doesn't work or if i have hormonal problems, then you guys can tell me you told me so!!!

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ALL-NATURAL-JUICE

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posted September 29, 2000 08:50 PM

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heheh..stack them.get more juice and get bloated.


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timac

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posted September 29, 2000 09:42 PM

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retaining water is fun,,,,,

a buddy of mine used to compete, took everything he could get his hands on. His motto was "the more the better," literally. He did this for 5 straight years, never took a break. Well, 6 years later he still cannot have kids. He's seeing a doc now trying to get his levels to normal.


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the truth

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posted September 29, 2000 10:35 PM

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Deca at 200 mg/mL certainly can suppress your hormonal axis. Nandrolone has a greater binding affinity for the androgen receptors than testosterone does. You get (IMO) all of the suppressive effects of an androgen and not enough of the positive androgenic effects. Couple that with nandrolone's ability to exhibit progestenic cross-reactivity and you've got a combination that over the long term can do damage to your HPTA. I have in the past done deca-only cycles and suffered hormonal disruption to a greater degree than when I did test (although I have to say I kept all my deca gains).

You're better off stacking the two for ten weeks.


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studcj

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posted September 29, 2000 11:22 PM

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"I am looking for the Marky Mark look"


Sorry bro, but that shit cracked me up when I read that!


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G-Man

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posted September 30, 2000 07:47 AM

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Hey Studcj i knew that would make you laugh!!! But i guess i am not as hard core as most of you guys on this board. We all have our own different goals and looks. Talk to ya later man.

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Krusher

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posted September 30, 2000 08:11 AM

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I think diet and cardio will play a huge role
for acheiving the look you want, a stack of fina/winny/clen would be good as well.


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8UP

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posted September 30, 2000 08:23 AM

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Damn you guys really know yer shit!And..the Marky Mark look was funny as hell..lol


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G-Man

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posted September 30, 2000 05:03 PM

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Hey Krusher, i did Fina/Winny cycle this summer and lot's of cardio. It did work very well. I just might do two weeks of Test by itself then hit the Deca and at the end just have 2 weeks of Deca by itself, for a total of 12 weeks!! Since you guys have talked me out of it.

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therealj

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posted September 30, 2000 06:44 PM

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Why do you want to look like Kerri Strug
http://images.honesty.com/imagedata/1/7/2/15337172.jpg


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Juicin18

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posted September 30, 2000 06:50 PM

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give ur body time to rest in betweeen trust me it doesn't work i did back to back 8 week cycles and the second did nothing at all


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G-Man

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posted September 30, 2000 11:06 PM

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Thanks Jucin..... what kind of juice did you do back to back? The same ones or different?

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