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JayDog

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From:St. Louis, MO 63125
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posted September 28, 2000 12:35 PM

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OK, MEN I NEED YOUR HELP? I FINALLY HAVE PIECED TOGETHER MY STUFF. THIS IS MY FIRST CYCLE AND I AM 28 5'11" 175LBS. I AM TRAINING 5 DAYS A WEEK, AND INCREASING MY DIET AND GETTING 250GRAMS OF PROTEIN A DAY. I HAVE:
2 10CC 200MG OF REAL BROVEL NOR200
2 10CC 200MG OF REAL BROVEL t/200
AND 200 D-BOL TABS
THE QUESTION IS HOW SHOULD I CYCLE? SHOULD I TAPER? DO I NEED CLOMID? WHAT KINDA OF GAINS SHOULD I EXPECT(WEIGHT AND STRENGTH)? HOW ABOUT SIDE EFFECTS? I APPRECIATE ANY HELP? ALSO COULD I MAY GOOD GAINS WITH JUST 1 BOTTLE OF THE NOR AND I BOTTLE OF THE T/200?


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Slopain

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posted September 28, 2000 12:43 PM

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well looks like you have done the research (sarcasm). Sides you can look up, they are easily available, their probably wont be a whole lot relatively speaking:

go 400 each of "real" nor200 and t200 for about 10 weeks. Go dbols for 4 weeks or so @ 30mg/day (thats 6 pills jaydog).

Why did you order your gear first before planning a cycle, that is the exact opposite way to work.

Slopain


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Jae

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:Well it ain't Kansas
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posted September 28, 2000 01:54 PM

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He probably just ordered what he had access to.

You know the best way to do a cycle. Rich Gaspari told me (us) this about 8 years ago at a seminar. He said gather up all your juice. In your case jaydog is those 2 bottles of each and the 200 tabs. Rich then said take a long hard look at your gear and ask youself this question. "When can I get some more?" If you could get more in two weeks, use EVERYTHING you had before then. Use it all in two weeks. Then you get your other gear and you look at it and ask yourself "when can I get some more"......


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Curious II

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From:Louisville, Ky
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posted September 28, 2000 01:57 PM

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Isn't that cute...

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"That Which Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger"

"Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death."
Hunter S. Thompson


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Curious II

Amateur Bodybuilder

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posted September 28, 2000 02:04 PM

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Here's my suggestion.

Test....Deca....D-bol

1)600...400...35mg.ED
2)600...400...30 ""
3)600...400...25 ""
4)600...400...20 ""
5)400...400...15 ""
6)400...400
7)400...400
8)200...400
9)200...400
10).....400

Get you some clomid.

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"That Which Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger"

"Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death."
Hunter S. Thompson


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SOUP

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From:Baton Rouge,LA,US
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posted September 28, 2000 02:13 PM

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I know they say to eat alot of protein to gain. But I think for a 175lb man @ 250g of protein a day is ALOT EXTRA. But I may be wrong. What is your body fat?


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Slopain

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posted September 28, 2000 02:26 PM

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2grams protein per pound is a rule of thumb (proabbaly invented by muscltech) so thats not really an issue. I think more importantly is to get calories and a lot of them.

I guess many people get their cycles together this way? It confuses me how you can use gear to your advantage to meet your goals when you just order anything that is available. I understand somepeople have a hard time getting what they need and everything - still.

Slopain


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JayDog

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posted September 28, 2000 02:46 PM

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UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS VERY HARD RIGHT NOW TO GET WHAT YOU WANT. I PERSONALLY WANTED THE DECA, AND A FORM OF TEST. BUT, I DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY TO GET WHAT I WANT. SO THEN YOU CAN SIT AND WAIT UNTIL YOU GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE ABOUT YOUR FIRST CYCLE, BUT I HAVE TO SAY I AM A BIT EXCITED. I HAVE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH, I JUST LIKE HEARING REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES. ALSO I HAVE HEARD SO MANY DIFFERENT IDEAS ON DOSAGES AND TAPERING, THAT I FEEL IF I GET ENOUGH ANSWERS THAT MAJORITY HOPEFULLY KNOWS BEST. ANYWAY THANKS AGAIN


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BRICK

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posted September 28, 2000 03:08 PM

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i agree with slopain you need to plan before you buy. i think you should wait and get some more gear so you can have a good cycle and not cheat yourself. might as well do it right.


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Slopain

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posted September 28, 2000 03:11 PM

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I understand the excitement, I still get excited. If you do a search for 'newbie cycle' or 'captain insane cycle' you will come up with alot of real world experiences, also dosing and everything will be more detailed. Clomid and Nolvadex are a must.

Slopain


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JayDog

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posted September 28, 2000 03:12 PM

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SO DO YOU THINK THIS IS A BAD FIRST CYCLE?


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