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E2

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posted September 28, 2000 12:04 PM

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WELL IT LOOKS LIKE THE US JUST APPROVED THE USE OF RU486. THAT MEANS ALL YOU BOYS WILL SOON HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

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DocJ

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posted September 28, 2000 12:07 PM

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Finally...everyone start hitting deca like madmen

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DellBear

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posted September 28, 2000 12:09 PM

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What is it used for? I'm not familiar with it.


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coolhandluke

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posted September 28, 2000 12:14 PM

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its an anti-progesterone drug.


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DREXX

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posted September 28, 2000 12:16 PM

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That is the abortion pill right?

It will block progesteron induced gyno right?

Let me know someone...


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Hacker

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posted September 28, 2000 12:17 PM

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DECA stock going up. he he!!


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 28, 2000 12:20 PM

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FUCK YEAH!!!!Aaaaah,to be able to use deca again,I'm drooling all over my keyboard.


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Mr H

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posted September 28, 2000 12:20 PM

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What company makes this?

This is great!

LOTS MORE of unprotected sex and high in estrogen steroids!! Wooohooooooooooo!

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Slopain

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posted September 28, 2000 12:36 PM

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Thats great, what a relief. I am still lost on dosing to prevent progesterone, but at least it will be a viable option soon, anyone know on timeline for it?

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GymRatSD

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posted September 28, 2000 12:46 PM

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Here's an article about it from CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/women/09/28/abortion.pill/

It should be available in about a month. It ain't going to be cheap here... one abortion with it is going to cost about $300.


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barney

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posted September 28, 2000 12:47 PM

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someone please explain, it sounds like your saying its the nolvadex of deca?? ayone know about doses etc.
is it going to be legao OTC there in the states?
ANYONE KNOW THE AUSSIE SITUATION?


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GymRatSD

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posted September 28, 2000 12:52 PM

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The drug will only be supplied by doctors performing abortions. And it's very expensive. I don't think there will be much black-market availability, unless it's available someplace like Mexico for much cheaper.


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msg

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posted September 28, 2000 12:57 PM

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E2,

do you or any others believe it will still be very hard to get considering the procedure it is typically administered? also, given its mechanism, do you believe that there is a "rebound" effect of progesterone when a male stops its usage?
see below for the reasons i ask these perhaps dumb q's:


RU486 fills the chemical receptor sites normally reserved for progesterone, but does not transmit the progesterone signal. Sensing what appears to be a drop in progesterone, usually a sign that pregnancy has not occurred, a woman's body shuts down the preparation of the uterus and initiates the normal menstrual process. The child, deprived of necessary nutrients, starves to death. The baby detaches and is swept out of the body along with the decayed uterine lining.


An RU486/PG induced abortion can take days, weeks, or never happen at all. It typically involves 3 (or more) visits to the doctor's office over a two week period.

In her first visit, a woman is "counseled," given a physical examination, perhaps an ultrasound, and if there are no obvious contraindications (common red flags such as high blood pressure, diabetes, heavy smoking, allergies, etc. that could make taking the drug deadly or dangerous for her(28)), she is given the RU486 pills, which she takes in the presence of the abortionist.

Two days later, during a second visit to the doctor's office, she is given the prostaglandin, which she takes orally or has inserted vaginally. Gradually, as the drug begins to take effect, she experiences powerful, painful uterine contractions which begin to work to expel the baby.

In U.S. trials, about half (49%) aborted during the four hours they spent waiting in the doctor's office following the administration of the prostaglandin. An additional 26 % aborted sometime over the next 20 hours, on the bus ride home, at work, in the shower, etc. The rest who aborted did so at some point during the following two weeks. Between 8% and 23% (depending on how many weeks pregnant the mother was) never completely aborted or didn't abort at all using the drugs.

A third visit some 14 days from the woman's initial visit allows the doctor to confirm whether or not the abortion has been completed. If it hasn't, the abortionist will encourage the woman to undergo a surgical abortion to guard against the possibility that she will give birth to a child who may have been injured by the drugs.(29), (30)

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ajc

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posted September 28, 2000 01:00 PM

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How healthy could this stuff possibly be to take on a regular basis, if it will cause a female have an abortion?

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 28, 2000 01:11 PM

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It will probably cause us to deliver a big tar-baby.LOL!!!


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Slopain

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AJC, at this point i dont know, but this is still a blessing b/c now there is a REAL Progesteron fighter, most people arent progesterone sensative, but this is a god send to those that are orto have on hand in case progesterone related gyno set in.

no too mention dnp,ghb,clen (used for ashma right?), nolva are all made for very different uses than what we use them for.

Bump for msg

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DREXX

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posted September 28, 2000 01:19 PM

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AJC brings up an interesting point!

I wouldnt use it anyways because its cost prohibitive and I don't like DECA!


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posted September 28, 2000 01:33 PM

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ill bump for msg also.

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swole

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posted September 28, 2000 01:35 PM

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bump it up

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HARDBALL05

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posted September 28, 2000 01:41 PM

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FROM AN ANABOLIC ISSUE, IT'S GOOD FOR US, BUT SLOPAIN HOW THE HELL IS THE FUCKING PILL A BLESSING....IT KILLS CHILDREN! I HATE WOMAN WHO HAVE ABORTIONS! MY OLD LADY WAS GOING TO HAVE ONE, AND I TOLD HER THAT I'D ABORT HER AS WELL......THIS IS WHY THIS WORLD IS SO FUCKED UP! FUCKING ASSHOLE DOCTORS, TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK....YEAH MAKE STEROIDS ILLEGAL FOR ALL TO USE, BUT HAVE A PILL THAT WILL PROBABLY KILL OVER 1 MILLION CHILDREN EVERY THREE MONTHS! FUCK IT, NOT TO FLAME SLOPAIN, JUST A LITTLE PISSED ABOUT THIS WHOLE TOPIC!

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Curious II

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You know, it is funny that it is legal to kill children...but illegal to improve your body. What a fucked up government we have. I hope all that support illegality of steroid use...but support abortions have their skulls crushed in and have to live on life support.

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GymRatSD

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posted September 28, 2000 01:56 PM

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Bros... don't make this a pro-life/pro-choice debate here. It's not appropriate. What's being discussed here is the avaibiility and use of a drug like this in conjuction with steroid use. THAT IS IT.


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I didn't know this was the theology section @ elite fitness, oh wait its not its the ANABOLIC section - there are abortion topics in the chat area go there, I AM STRICTLY SPEAKING FOR AS USAGE AND BENEFITS. No flame taken bro, but I was speaking in relation to Anabolics.

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ontariowrestler

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posted September 28, 2000 02:47 PM

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On a related note. Anyone hear about the bill before congress or senate on reimportation of drugs? It is supposed to allow american drug companies to reimport their drugs, and is supposed to lower many prescription drug costs by 30 - 40 %. Republicans have said they won't block it (don't you love election years) as it would save people major $$$.


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Curious I'm really surprised. Not about your beliefs, that's your business, but that you would put them on E2's thread letting us know about a drug we can all use now. We both know he wouldn't start a thread that would invoke this type of debate. You know the name of this forum bro.
Hardball may not know any better but you sure do.


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posted September 28, 2000 04:46 PM

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If it only takes one or even 10 of these pills to have an abortion, the pills are not going to be very easy to get because they won't be a drug that the doctor will prescribe. Which, in turn is going to make them be very expensive.

My other thought on this is, if some women abort weeks later, that could possibly mean that the pill is active in the body for quite a while. So, you may not need to take a lot of these to get our desired effect while using Deca. But, this drug could be very bad on the body if taken over and over. It was approved for abortions, which most women are not going to have on a regular basis.

BTW, Hardball...I didn't say anything because I didn't want to start a pro-life/pro-choice debate, but I agree with you.

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posted September 28, 2000 05:38 PM

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sorry guys for the little rant earlier...it just pisses me off sometimes and i let my emotions come out....i was and am not in any way flamming anyone especially slopian, cause dude, you are a very intelligent individual! but anyways....sorry! thanks for the support ajc!!

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quote:
Originally posted by ulter:
Hardball may not know any better but you sure do.


ULTER, WAS THAT A KNOCK ON ME CAUSE I'M A NEWBIE? I THOUGHT SO, OTHERWISE THEN YOU'D KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD SINCE JANUARY....BUT BOTH MY PREVIOUS HANDLES GOT HACKED! SO I HOPE THIS CLEARS THINGS UP....I AM REALLY TRYING NOT TO FLAME ANYONE, SO PLEASE JUST BARE WITH, IT'S ALREADY BEEN A HARD ENOUGH DAY!

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Ulter...all I am saying is that it is amazing that the government doesn't allow steroids...but allows this. I could care less about the whole abortion debate. What I am pissed about is the illegality of steroids when there are so many other more unhealthy drugs out there that are being legalized. That is the bullshit I am pissed about. Let women kick out their babies for all I care. I just want some justice for the steroids..that's all.

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posted September 28, 2000 08:49 PM

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Curious II

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posted September 28, 2000 08:56 PM

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Ulter, wipe that smile off your face before I wipe it off for you.....heh heh

I know how we can get our hands on some of this very easily. We could get luvs to put on a skirt and go tell the doc he's pregnant. He would insist that he have an abortion.

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On Thursday, the federal Food and Drug Administration approved mifepristone for sale in the United States. The pill, to be marketed under the name Mifeprex, will be available only through physicians. It should be available in about a month.


Ohhh,we need to wait another monht to get it.

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Speaking for someone who got progestinic gyno from 200mg of deca.....IT"S ABOUT TIME! Trust me if their is a demand their will eventually be a supply. I know of some who have said to have gotten it through mail order so I bet it will become available. (although it will be expensive) Maybe their is some deca in my future after all!


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The abortionpill has been an otc drug up here in Norway for a couple of months...we can actually go and buy it without a script...


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I agree with hardball...sell pills to kill babies...but go to jail to improve your body...the USA government..could take these useless drugs and shove em up there ass
How many people die from steroid use per year???
well 480 people die every year from aspirin
over 700 from tynelol
and 110,000 from other perscription drugs...all for the buck and the MDS..


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