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Author | Topic: For those of you that drink Winstrol | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 119 |
I was on another forum in a discussion about this. And it was pretty much decided that drinking Winstrol is as good, if not better (more IGF-1 release) then injecting (even though it'll screw your liver up more). But the dosages ranged from 50mgs every day to 25mgs EOD. I searched the archives and there were a bunch of posts about whether drinking it was good or not, but none addresses the dosages. Any help would be much appreciated!!! Thanks! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 577 |
I was thinking about doing 50MG/EOD for 6 weeks on my Fina/EQ/Winny cycle. However with the amount of Winny I'm going to be getting- I may be better off doing 50MG/ED. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2236 |
Its like anything depends on you personally. I have done 25mg ed to a little more than 50mg ed. Since your drinking it I don't understand why you would want to skip days, better to keep it consistent split up the dose and do it ed. I have injected and drank, I really could not tell a difference in over all results. I think for now on I may drink, my dose will be 25-50 ed depending on what its use is. I am using right now in a bulk stack with deca just to help keep progesterone related sides at bay. I am only using 25mg ed, not for results from the winny - but for effects on progesterone. Slopain ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 376 |
I'm drinking 50mg ED right now (for 8 weeks) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 119 |
I was thinking that doing 25mg/ED would prolly be the best way. Since you don't have the delayed release like the injection ( I know it's in water but the release is still delayed)it may be better to take it everyday. I was even gonna divide it further into 12.5mg every 12 hours. Hmmmm...what to do? Slopain....we were typing at the same time so I didn't see your post till mine was posted. But I think you're 100% correct about the dosing schedule. And I'm glad to hear that you have done both and compared the results. Thanks bro! [This message has been edited by Deltzilla (edited September 28, 2000).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 101 |
While you are on the topic, what would the dose be for a woman, drinking it? I know the pill dose. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 376 |
I think it is active for 9 hours. ( I don't remember where I read that) I split it up twice daily, but might be better 3 times. It passes through your liver whether you drink it or inject it. Also, has anyone put winny in gelcaps? Thinking of doing that, rather than carrying a syringe around at work. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 119 |
I'm gonna get the size "00" gelcaps. Those were the ones recommended to me. They are freakin' pretty big too. Hope I don't choke. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 14 |
I just got done with 50mg/eod for 5 weeks I shot it. Let me say that it is alot of shots. It got to be pretty terrible but I had to finish. About those huge gel caps my friend tried it and couldn't swallow them. so he just shot it down his mouth. I can't compare the results of who did better him or I but I think next time I'll drink it.Btw I alos mixed it with 1cc of sust 250 3 times without any trouble. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2236 |
tranrhd, the mixing of oil water isn't recomneded (obvioulsy you know this) but I think many people do it without problems. I stay away from it as a guideline, even with the eod injection schedule. Slopain ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 14 |
slopain. I just had to try it I've heard of people doing it. What could be some of the problems one may encounter when mixing oil and water ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 811 |
If you mix oil and water most of the time it will make lots of air bubbles and that is what people are affraid of. I maybe off but this is what I always thought is the reason not to mix. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 119 |
You're right. Being that oil and water don't mix, air bubbles get trapped in there. I experienced this once when I washed out a syringe with water and then used it to draw out some oil. I got a ton of little bubbles that I couldn't "flick" out. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 376 |
Why the large gelcaps. You only need 1/3 of a ml in each one. 1/2 ml at most. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 14 |
I was worried about the air bubbles myself so I was extra careful when I would draw it up. Here is how - first draw the oil and clear the air bubbles then draw the water leave about half a cc of air in syringe stand syringe on end (needle up) let set all air will rise to the top. Then with needle up unscrew old needle and screw on new one. push out rest of air and inject. So if this works is any medical reason why we can't mix oil and water. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 735 |
Here is one of the problems with injecting oil and water in the same syringe: You make the Winstrol less effective. Why? Winstrol, a very non-polar compound, dissolves readily in oil (it's simply is water suspension, not dissolved in water). Therefore, some of the Winstrol will move into the oil phase in the syringe. The oil takes much longer for the body to absorb, where Winstrol is a faster-acting drug. Therefore, the therapeutic benefit of the drug is diminished when in the oil phase. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 14 |
Gymrat thanks that is what I was looking for. See you can learn somthing every day. Have a good day bros BE SAFE. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 630 |
so are you saying that b/c my cutting fuel is oil based that my winny is less effective? please let me know! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 867 |
have done the oil water mix while getting ready for a show and to tired to inject so many different compounds. NOW what I found was it hurts like hell and was not worth it. the only time to use some oil in a water solution is to make it easier to inject and break down the substance ( winny is hard to shoot other than Illium) but when doing this just a very small amount of oil and I mean very small. as far as caps why? just swallow the shit. taste like chicken ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 120 |
tastes like chicken, now thats funny! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 40 |
Why do i need a syringue to drink it? can't i simply open the amp, and turn it in my mouth? and add some water to the amp and drink the water so i leave the amp 100% clean? thankx ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 376 |
Yeah, you can drink it from the amp. I have a 10ml vial thats why I use a syringe. Don't drink it all at once. Split it up a least twice daily. I don't know how you'll do that with an open amp. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 40 |
I see this topic on here all the time... whats better drink it or shoot it.... I don't understand why you guys would want to drink something that is made to be injected. Personally I'd be afraid of losing my money by drinking it and having it not work... well thats just my thoughts on it. I'm terrified of needles and I still stick it, I guess I'm just scared of losing its full potential. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 577 |
We're talking about regular Winny amps here? I thought we were talking about the powdered stuff? ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 735 |
gymkid, if you knew anything about physiology and the mechanism of the drug, you'd know that drinking Winstrol would act the same way as taking it in tablet form. IT'S THE SAME DRUG. PERIOD. The injectible version is made for one of two purposes: 1) veterinary; it's easier to inject a cow than to force it to swallow a pill, or 2) it's easier to give a person that has been severely burned or wasting an injection than have them try to choke down a pill. So why do we drink it? It may be the only form of stanazolol we can get out hands on. We may get enough injections through our cycle each week. And there are various other reasons. BUT, it's the same drug whether it's a pill or a liquid suspension. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 554 |
Well said Gymrat. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 21 |
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Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 811 |
Bump for GymRatSD! It's really nice to have you posting. You always have some good info for us. Apreciated bro! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 811 |
GymRatSD: Please answer the question below. Any other knowledgeable bros can answer too. I would really like your input on that. Sice cutting fuel seems like a super product at a super price. By the way it's 50mg of Winny and 100mg Masteron per ml most likely oil based...
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Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 639 |
I've drank and shot it. There is no difference! Oh well maybe one...less injection holes in my ass. hahahhaha ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 24 |
gymrat- i'm going to show my ignorance when it comes to winstrol, i just want to make sure i understand what i'm reading. when you say "The injectible version is made for one of two purposes", do you mean that there are different versions of liquid winstrol? or do you mean that there's one version, & we can either inject it or take it orally? ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 580 |
quote: If you are talking about the winny powder which I think you are because of another one of your posts, you have to take it ED. The half life is not very long so you need to take it twice a day to keep blood levels steady. Taking it EOD would not be good at all. Take 50 mgs daily which is what I did and it worked great. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 182 |
Oil and water do mix. Did it about 5 months ago with suspension and test oil cause the suspension was sticking in the needle. So the oil from the other test made it able to shoot it. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 49 |
as with any oral A/S it will pass thru your liver two times,injecting it only once. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 979 |
I disagree with you Hacker. Drinking the Winny and it passes the liver BEFORE it gets in the blood, while injecting it, it is ALREADY in the blood. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 580 |
I thought all 17aa's had to pass throught the liver. Sure injecting it avoids first pass but it still goes throught the liver, right? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 979 |
I am with you Mav, when drinking it passes the liver one extra time. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 17 |
So, i'm about to start. Should i drink 25 mg a day or shot 50 eod ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 639 |
I think you should save the precious amount of shots we can take in our lifetime and drink it. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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