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 19-norandrostenedione
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 95 |
Hey bros. Save the flames. I used the board search engine on this, and couldn't find another thread. One can buy 12 grams of 19- norandrostenedione for $30 right now (or 10 grams packed with some other good stuff right here from MassQuantities for $40). What do you think of this stuff? 1. It's converted to nandralone in the liver, but how much? The rest (I think) can't convert to estrogen in reasonable doses, but what about progesterone? If the conversion went mostly into nandralone that would be pretty sweet. 2. What do y'all think would be the anabolic effects of oral nandralone converted in the liver. Like dear dead Dan Duchaine suggested, would it increase the synthesis of other anabolic factors (IGF-1, etc), or would it be deactivated almost as quickly as it's made? (or both) 3. What do you think about injesting 100-200 mg 19-norandrostenedione at a time? It could throw off the hormonal axis pretty bad, and if it goes to progesterone... 4. Would it go well with Winstrol, to block progesterone effects? Of course, if you had winstrol, you'd probably have deca too... 5. Would the legal existance of this stuff be a good excuse for testing positive for nandralone? 6. Could 19-norandrostenedione be converted into a nandralone ester(?) in glassware, then administered another way? This last question is purely for my curiosity. While true, this stuff isn't gear and never had to be smuggled in, if the effects are good then it's a good deal, eh? Stay huge bros. Peace!     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 574 |
Where the hell do you find the injectable nor? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 95 |
It's oral, capsules. Up to 99.3% pure. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 574 |
kay | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1614 |
To the best of my knowledge,all of the"dione"versions of prohormones can aromitize into estrogen.They are also inferior to the "diol"versions as far as absorbtion efficiency. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 95 |
What do you think about points 5 and 6? | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1614 |
#5)Yes,I beleive that it could definitely be used as an excuse,but I don't know how effectively,hehheh.#6)this has already been done-Syntrax innovations briefly manufactured exactly the product you describe.This caught the FDA's attention immediately.Needless to say,it wasn't available long.But it was successfully done. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 95 |
Hey Huck, how do you suppose they did that? I don't have my organic chemistry book handy... | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1614 |
Derek Cornelius,the owner of syntrax is one hell of a decorated chemist from all accounts that I've heard.I also know that he was in close contact with the late great Duchaine around the time these items were coming out.Go figure,huh?haha. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 823 |
Actually, Derek Cornelius' formula was just a suspension of 19-nor in water. Hardly chemical wizardry and definitely not cost-effective. Nandrolones do not boost the production of IGF-1; quite the opposite. As for using it as an excuse for a positive test, that depends on who's doing the testing. If it's IOC, it's not an excuse, as nor-andro is a banned substance. That's why these retards who test positive for nandrolone make claims of their toothpaste or creatine having been spiked, because the only lie that would be physiologically possible would also involve a banned drug. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 382 |
Personally, I would spend my money on the real deal, but if you must, the same kit that makes fina injectible will work fine with any of the prohormones. |
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posted September 28, 2000 12:43 AM