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 insulin and DNP
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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ok, I was reading an article on roid.com 'Insulin and DNP' and how they would be perfect to combine together inbetween cycles. It goes to state that DNP inhibits insulins action for ATP renewal, I believe, but does not inhibit its anabolic properties and ability to shuttle aminos and glucose into the muscles. DNP would keep you lean inbetween cycles and the insulin would continue to give the anabolic enviroment to help maintain your growth from the last cycle. They also mention using T3 with this combo. But doesnt DNP also affect the thyroid? Also what I dont understand is DNP can create a state of hypoglycemia while you use it so wouldnt using insulin at the same time just put you at a much greater risk and make it that much harder to maintain a normal blood-sugar level? If I'm wrong how would you use these together, while keeping your blood sugar normal?     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 52 |
I personally wouldnt use the two together, too risky. DNP doesnt affect they thyroid like T3 does. Forget about the thyroid when on DNP, its not of any concern. While on DNP, your body fuckin kills any carbs eaten because its so starved for energy. Too little carbs starves body for energy too much and you will become hyperglycemic BIGRAND | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 452 |
ok I'll nix the isulin idea. When you take DNP alone how should you watch your carb intake? Increase it? Would there be anything wrong with a week cycle of DNP then going straight to the T3? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 621 |
how should your carbs be on dnp alone???????? ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 452 |
I dont understand your question LRG. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
quote: So why wouldn't the Insulin be a good idea if u will be Hyperglycemic when ingesting to many carbs while on the DNP. If I misunderstood this answer just enlighten me. on the point being made ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 452 |
ok, here is another question to throw out there. Right now I'm at 167lbs. The suggested doses is about 3-5mg per kg bodyweight. I was going to take 400mg/day but at 5mg/kg that is 375mgs. This is going to be my first DNP cycle so I dont want to overdo it. Would starting at 400mg the first day then maintaining 200mg be too little or should I hit 400mg throughout? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 827 |
Clem: My girlfriend, who is quite a bit smaller than you, had no problems on 400 mg/day. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 351 |
When I started DNP I used Insulin I quickly discontinued it.It was to much.It is not needed .I used this time to take a rest from the insulin .when the DNP cleared my body and The insulin started to take effect.I was extremely vascular and pumped.I started my cycle the same time. so it took 12 days to gain any weight(10 days of DNP,2 days to clear out).Even on Anadrol I stayed flat on DNP.But the rebound.I looked great for 24hrs. My legs were incredible. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 52 |
MEDIC: I wouldnt take them together because both are dangerous. DNP alone is quite enough and the insulin is not needed. 600mg/day day1-3 400mg/day day4-12 Try that one. I had good success with it.
[This message has been edited by bigrand (edited September 27, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
Thanks for the reply I was just curious | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 452 |
bump | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 301 |
ClemDog, Email me again and let me know when you are starting. I was thinking of doing it myself and I would like to be in contact with someone on a day to day basis who is using it and find out how they feel each day. How long were you thinking of doing it? And I read the same article. I was just as confused. I think they also mentioned that insulin will contribute it's anabolic effect while the DNP is sparing muscle, hence you get a nice little full muscle, instead of a flat one. ------------------
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 354 |
FYI bros - DNP does decrease T3 levels. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 621 |
so docj your saying to use t3 w/dnp? clemdog-my q was how are you suppose to eat on dnp, cause it sounded like there was a specific way your suppose to that i was unaware of? thats all- ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 354 |
Maybe... If you are doing a short cycle of DNP (2 weeks) then you might not need any T3 but if your doing a 4 week or doing a 2 weeks on/2 weeks off type of schedule like some do, then your decreased T3 levels will actually cause the DNP to become less effective. The best way to know when this point is reached is through a blood test but I believe there's a "poor man's" way to do it. Monitor your temp immediately when you wake up. If you notice that your temp "peaks" and then begins to decrease a couple degress, you need some T3 with your DNP. Just remember, DNP + T3 is not fun, I would recommend this only for very serious bros i.e. for a BB show or unless you just like being a guinea pig like me  BTW - make sure you get adequate carbs while on DNP or you will feel like hammered shit. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 404 |
It is good that DNP lowers t3 levels. This is how it helps to preserve muscle. If you want to use t3 then do it on your off weeks between DNP cycles. You won't need t3 especially if you do your cycles 1 week on and 2 weeks off. Personally, I wouldn't use t3 if I was going to use DNP. I also wouldn't use insulin with DNP because it can make you HYPOglycemic meaning that your blood sugar levels are too low and you will feel terribly lethargic, get dizzy and maybe pass out. Animal has used eca and DNP together but I wouldn't do it because the DNP is effective enough by itself. There are always those that use chemicals as a crutch for their own poor eating and excercise habits, don't be that person. Try to use as little DNP as possible, watch what you eat and do some cardio. I am 225 and on my 7th or 8th DNP cycle and I find that 400mg is plenty for me. Good luck. Later, | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 354 |
Exactly, keep the cycle short and you won't need the T3. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
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posted September 27, 2000 09:43 PM