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Topic: Increase the absorbtion rate of orals
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 62 From: Registered: Jun 2000
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posted September 27, 2000 04:31 PM |
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I saw this in the Washington post yesterday and was curious if anyone had any feedback on the potential of this as a means to increase the absorbsion rate of orals. Where are our biochemists at when ya' need em,?FYI..I looked up the one drug referenced in the article and it is listed as a macrolide antibiotics, if that helps the medically inclined on the board. Beware the Grapefruit Overdose; Your Breakfast Juice Can Boost the Absorption of Some Commonly Prescribed Drugs
Pity the poor grapefruit. Never as popular as its sweeter sibling the orange, it also possesses a potentially dangerous flaw: When combined with certain medications, the juice of the grapefruit can dramatically boost the amount of a drug in the bloodstream and increase the chance of adverse effects. Here's why: The intestine is host to an enzyme that, under normal circumstances, breaks drugs down; recommended dosages of drugs take into account this enzyme's effect. But both grapefruit and its juice somehow inhibit the action of this enzyme, and the patient ends up absorbing a much higher dose of the drug than the doctor intended. Scientists don't know exactly which ingredient in grapefruit is responsible for this perplexing property, but it doesn't appear to be shared by oranges or any other fruit, according to Garvan C. Kane, an internist at the Mayo Clinic who co-authored a comprehensive review paper on grapefruit-drug interactions in the September issue of the Mayo Clinic Proceedings. What's worrisome is that the drugs that grapefruit interacts with are among today's most commonly prescribed. They include many of the cholesterol-lowering drugs known as statins (such as Zocor and Lipitor), some of the calcium antagonists used to treat high blood pressure (Plendil, Sular), the sedative Valium, the anti-anxiety medication BuSpar and possibly the impotence drug Viagra. Grapefruit-drug interactions were first noticed about 10 years ago. Although there have been no reports of death or even serious adverse effects associated with the phenomenon, nobody has specifically looked for them. And bad reactions have been reported in people who have combined these drugs with the antibiotic erythromycin, which blocks the same enzyme that grapefruit does. The effect is akin to an overdose of the drug itself. High doses of statins, for example, can lead to muscle pain or weakness, and in rare instances a condition called rhabdomyolysis, in which excess muscle breakdown can lead to kidney failure. Grapefruit plus calcium antagonists could cause dizziness or faintness. And a higher Valium dose means increased sedation. Some pharmacies label prescription bottles with a warning not to consume grapefruit juice within two to four hours of taking these medications. But Kane says that might not be a long enough waiting period for the drugs with more serious side effects. But suppose you wanted to boost the amount of a drug--say, Viagra--in your system. Could you combine it with grapefruit? Not a good idea. Grapefruit might indeed enhance Viagra's potency-inducing property, but at a price: Side effects such as headache, flushing, indigestion and vision changes would likely rise as well. Kane urges caution. But "I don't want people to panic. With many medications, grapefruit is perfectly safe. It's just a matter of discussing it with your physician." That view is echoed by Falco Witkamp, director of grapefruit marketing for the Florida Department of Citrus, based in Lakeland, Fla. "There are many foods that interact with medicines, including caffeine and milk. People should always discuss their diet with their doctor," he urged. And of course grapefruit does have a health upside: Studies have shown that regular consumption reduces the risk for heart disease, stroke and possibly cancer.
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted September 27, 2000 04:35 PM |
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Here's the paper that is referred to in the article if it helps at all http://www.mayo.edu/publication/proceedings/2000/sep/7509r1.pdf
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1013 From: Registered: Jun 2000
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posted September 27, 2000 04:53 PM |
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MAJOR BUMP, i've herd about it, using grape fruit with all kind off drugs and wasn't sure why ,i knew it was absorbtion thing. i would like to know what is useally stack with it (i think i herd about using it on dnp cycles)
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 100 From:Boston Registered: Sep 2000
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posted September 27, 2000 04:58 PM |
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Hey thats some interesting shit...nice post...thankslater g
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 141 From:Ontario, Canada Registered: Sep 2000
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posted September 27, 2000 05:04 PM |
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So the post refers to it being a bad thing? For A.S it's a good thing? or would it increase the sides without the added benifit?------------------ JIM LAYHOE [email protected]
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 370 From: Registered: Apr 2000
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posted September 27, 2000 05:09 PM |
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Oh fucking great, now the DEA will be scheduling Grapefruit shortly, and we'll be trading soil enhancers...
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 81 From:ny Registered: Sep 2000
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posted September 27, 2000 05:45 PM |
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HELL FUCKIN YEA! IM BREAKIN OUT THE VICODIN AND WELCH'S GRAPE JUICE BOXS BABY!
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Freak
Posts: 1582 From:Timbuktu Registered: Aug 2000
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posted September 27, 2000 05:50 PM |
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LOL!!!
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1004 From:Chicago,Ill,USA Registered: Apr 2000
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posted September 27, 2000 06:00 PM |
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wtbd Grapefruit Not Grape Juice. Jim L it is a good thing. More bang for your buck all around. I will be using grapefruit juice to wash down my oxandrolone from now on.
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Cool Novice
Posts: 46 From:USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted September 27, 2000 06:31 PM |
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if i drink grapefruit juice with my winny tabs, wil it work better?------------------
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1004 From:Chicago,Ill,USA Registered: Apr 2000
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posted September 27, 2000 07:22 PM |
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That's what it says up there.
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