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Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 11 |
I've been reading the posts for about 5 months now and I couldn't find anything on the subject so correct me if I'm wrong. Logic tells me that if clomid is used to jumpstart your own natural test production, and it is used throughout a test cycle when natural test production is reduced, then it will, in effect, continue or at least promote natural test production, thus limiting the side effects after a cycle is complete. All info is appreciated. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 89 |
Nope it just stops it from shutting down. Do a search 'Clomid' or read AJC's newbie post. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 11 |
I may be a newbie to posting messages and all, but it seems to me that you responded to the question in the affirmative by providing a negated answer. You gotta love the irony. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 89 |
Whatever. NO Clomid does not jumpstart test. pod. Happy? ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 11 |
That's all I needed to hear. Sorry for being such an asshole. I guess I'm getting a little angry with all of the newbie bashing around here. Remember, some of us actually do our research and are intelligent enough to not e-mail hundreds of guys for sources. Thanks again. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 11 |
hey guys, i havent found a good source to read about how and why using clomid along with A/S.. yes i am a newbie like studcan but the 90% of the links on AJC's website are not working.. so whenever you say go read. tell where to read.. cause we wanna read, but dont know a good source. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 133 |
Clomid is not an anabolic/androgenic steroid. Since it is a synthetic estrogen it belongs, however, to the group of sex.hormones. In school medicine Clomid is normally used to trigger ovulation. Those who cannot make much of this should read the package insert of Merrell Dow Pharma GmbH Company enclosed with the compound. Under "application" one reads the following: "To trigger the release of an ovum (ovulation) in women who want children and have certain ovary malfunctions..." Some might ask now what such a compound is doing in the drug arsenal of athletes. Those who know the effect of Clomid will immediately understand why it is used by numerous athletes. Clomid, by setting in motion the process of releasing hormones, stimulates the release of gonadotropin and triggers ovulation in women with anovulatory cycles and who are sterile because of this. Although this is actually a drug destined for women its effect on men is undisputed. The manufacturer of Dyneric,the Merrell Dow Pharma GmbH, writes in its package insert for the German version of Clomid: "Dyneric causes an improved activity between mid-brain, pituitary gland, and ovaries." What however is not mentioned is that Dyneric also improves the activity between mid-brain (hypothalamus), pituitary gland thypophysis), and testes in men. Clomid has a strong influence on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis. It stimulates the hypophysis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher release of FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) aud LH (luteinizing hormone) occurs. This results in an elevated endogenous (body's own testosterone level. Clomid is especially effective when the body's own testosterone production, due to the intake of anabolic/androgenic steroids, is suppressed. In most cases Clomid can normalize the testosterone level and the spermatogenesis (sperm development)within 10-14 days. For this reason Clomid is primarily taken after steroids are discontinued. At this time it is extremely important to bring the testosterone production to a normal level as quickly as possible so that the loss of strength and muscle mass is minimized. Even better results can be achieved if Clomid is combined with HCG or when Clomid is used after the intake of HCG. The difference between Clomid and HCG lies in the fact that Clomid has a direct influence on the hypothalamus and the hypophysis, thus regenerating the entire regulating cycle while HCG imitates the effect of the luteinizing hormone (LH) which stimulates the Ledig's cells fo produce more testosterone. Since HCG, unlike Clomid, leads to a distinctly elevated plasmatestosterone level within a few hours, many athlets first take HCG and then Clomid (see also HCG).
Side effects of Clomid are very rare if reasonable dosages are taken. Possible side effects are climacteric hot flashes and occasional visual disturbances which can manifest themselves in blurred vision, giving flickering or flashing. Should visual distuibances occur, the manufacturer recommends discontinuing Clomid treatment. Inadequate liver functions cannot be excluded;however,they are very unlikely in women enlargement of the ovaries and abdominal pain can occur since Clomid stimulates the ovaries. When taking Clomid multiple pregnancies are possible as well. As for the dosage, 50-100 mg/per day(1-2 tablets) seems to be sufficient. The tablets are usually taken with fluids after meals. If several tablets are taken it is recomended that they be administered in equal doses distributed throughout the day. The duration of intake should not exceed 10 to 14 days. Most athlets begin with 100 mg/day taking one 50mg tablet every morning and evening after meals. After the fifth day the dosage is often reduced to only one 50mg tablet per day. It is normally not necessary to take the compound for more than 10 days in order to increase the endogenus testosterone production. Since Clomid should not be taken for a prolonged time its application as an Antiestrogen must be excluded because, for that purpose, it would have to be taken for several weeks. Clomid is relatively expensive. A package with 10 tablets costs approx. $35 - 45 on the black market. Fortunately, since the intake is only for a brief time, the financial burden usually becomes acceptable. The foreign compounds such as the Spanish Omifin are considerably cheaper and cost less than $2 per tablet. The tablets of the Merrell Dow Company (Dyneric, Omifin,Clomid) are beige, indented, and have an "M" engraved on the back, imprinted with two circles. Fakes of Dyneric, Clomid, Omifin, and other compounds are not available at this time. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 64 |
Studcan, I just sent you an email with some good info Good luck ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 11 |
Thanks Jim & DSPO. I appreciate the info that some people, although understandable, refuse to provide. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 11 |
dspo, can u send me that info as well.. where did u find that literature jim? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 26 |
Great info, but just a few inaccuracies. Clomid can be taken for more than 10-14 days. The reason the literature states that it shouldn't is that it is designed as a women's fertility drug and there's no point trying to get pregnant when it's that time of the month. Clinical studies have been conducted using clomid for periods of a year or longer. Clomid has a long half-life (five days I believe) and so spreading out taking it throughout the day serves no purpose. If you are going to take 50mg ED, start with 300 mg the first day to get up to the theraputic dose from day 1. Clomid is both a mixed estrogen agonist/antagonist. It is an effective antagonist in the hypothalamus and in breast tissue. It is an effective agonist in bone tissue, improving blood cholesterol. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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