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OMEGALOS

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posted September 27, 2000 06:49 AM

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Ive purchased a bottle of Humalin-R from Lilly. I want to start using it. My plan is as follows. Please give me feedback.
Start with 2iu post workout. Increase by 1iu every other day, until I get to around 8iu or so. 25 days in a row, since after that supposedly my insulin is no good, right? I keep it refregerated and havent opened it yet.
The injections, do you switch sides of your belly every day like you do your ass when shooting gear? or is it more compicated than that, I dont want to get lypoatrophy(sp?). How does one properly rotate injection sites? How far in does the needle have to go? Just below skin or all the way in 1/2 inch.
How many grams of carbs right after shot? 20 for 2iu or min 100g no matter how many iu. Also around 3 or 4 hours later Ill have a high carb meal with some protein as well? Any ideas how much carbs and protein for a 213 lbs man?
Thanks.

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strengthmonster

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posted September 27, 2000 07:20 AM

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Your plan seems very sensible and is almost exactly what I did myself. I just used it on training days but I also used it on waking up as well. As long as its short acting this is OK. I only managed to get up to 7iu though.

As for the shots just pinch your skin and put it just below the skin. The insulin pins don't hurt at all and feel great after using 23/22g. so its not essential to alternate sides. Some guys have said it helps to put it at the bodypart they've just trained for faster dispersal but I've also heard it doesn't matter.

As a guideline your carbs should be 10g per 1iu of insulin. This is more than enough. I use 100% Maltodextrin and also use it in my workout drink just to be sure I've enough. Have some protein after your workout as well and personally I'd eat a bit sooner as well, about 2 hours after training when it peaks. Make sure you've got some glucose on you all the time just in case your blood sugar gets too low. I have felt this twice and on both occasions it was when I didn't get my food down fast enough. I felt light headed and started pouring with swat suddenly. It is very scary but I ate a full packet of dextrosol, disolving them under my tongue washed down with lucozade and felt fine 20 mins later. (Dextrosol and Lucozade are UK brands but I'm sure there will be equivalents)


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skg

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posted September 27, 2000 08:11 AM

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Tell us about the results strengthmaster


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OMEGALOS

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posted September 27, 2000 05:28 PM

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Thanks for your input strengthmaster. (I feel like Im in the commercial, "Thank you Thighmaster!")
How long have you been or were you on it? Did you do 7iu 2xday?
I just took my first shot. Decided to go 4iu, injection was a pleasure your right, so fast and easy. I ate a tuna pita sandwich right after and now 30min after Im gonna have two scoops(instead of the reccomended four) of Super HEavy Weightgainer from Champion Nutrition. This has about 25 g protein and 55g carbs, not including the milk which adds to these. Then Im gonna eat my dinner in 3 more hours, some rice and meat.
Im gonna try 4iu 2xday for a month.
Replies welcome.

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conan69

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posted September 27, 2000 05:41 PM

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http://www.itstherock.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000017.html


this has good info

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OMEGALOS

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posted September 27, 2000 06:40 PM

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Thanks conan for the reading material, great fucking info! Read it and the links that were still active.
What are you personal uses and experiences with insulin. I am using it off AS and hoping to still gain some quality muscle and expecting a bit, however not too much fat gain as well.

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buff221

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posted September 27, 2000 07:13 PM

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I pinch skin on my quad and inject there with no problem, I drink a carb drink like carbo force on the way home from the gym and then do my injection at home between 8-12 ius, then I usually eat an hour later high protein and moderate carbs. Definitely start low like 3-4 units then work your way up, make sure you eat pretty clean or you will be a fat ass, especially in the guy area.


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OMEGALOS

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posted September 28, 2000 09:35 PM

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A little bump for myself!


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MC_PUMP

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posted September 28, 2000 10:08 PM

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Thanks Conan for that link.


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