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HelmsmaN

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 160
From:A squatt rack somewhere in San Diego
Registered: Jul 2000

posted September 26, 2000 02:45 PM

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I have been seeing a lot of frustration coming from the amount of "dumb newbie" questions being asked. Seeing that there are a bunch of new guys, and since my first cycle is coming to an end, I decided to put this post together.
Here is what I did-
I trained hard and HEAVY with maximum intensity for nearly 5 years to reach my genetic potential. At 5'8", 245+ pounds, people already thought I had juiced at least once.
I came to the board seeking knowledge, so...I searched for, found and read the "Newbie post".
I read daily, taking mental notes of who was making intelligent replies to intelligent questions. In a few weeks time, most if-not-all of my daily questions were answered.
I researched other websites (not boards).
I found the post on the "newbie cycle".
I bought Anabolics2000, and read it 3 times.
With a little bit of knowledge, I emailed a few of the Veterans that I noted were making those intelligent replies. Four of them initially answered back, but due to some (now obviously dumb questions) one of them stopped responding.
Finally I had obtained enough information to build a stack and get started.
I didn't ask anybody to "design my cycle for me", simply because I had done my homework, and I trust my own judgement.

NOTE: I still had not posted any questions...there was no need to!

During these initial weeks of studying, I was taking clenbuterol, and ECA. I would take the clen for 2 weeks, and ECA for 2 weeks. I did this for I think about 5 weeks, and dropped about 8 pounds. I was up to 6-7 clens a day.
I got my gear, darts, and extra pins. I bought a few tubs of weightgainer. I bought Milk Thistle and two different types of digestive enzymes, PLENTY of Clomid, and some Nolvadex (just in case).

About the stack - Clomid EOD, Testosterona200, 3cc's/wk and Norandren 200, 2.25cc's/wk. Yes, both are Brovel products. No, I didn't get infections. Since they are "rumored" to be underdosed, I adjusted the Deca accordingly. I did not taper my doses. Some will argue the tapering is necessary, and some, like Dan Duchane and Anabolics2000 will say that tapering is not necessary. I have read and believe that since endogenous testosterone production will not begin until exogenous testosterone administration ceases, there is/was no need for me to taper. Besides, I have plenty of gear.
I started taking Winny (orally) EOD during week 7, ending week 9.

About injections - My girlfriend administered all injections. I had her read 2Thick's site a couple of times. She has had no problems, and no surprises. Early on, I had some concerns about the Test injections not absorbing well. There would be a lump, and a nice warm red spot. More research indicates that the redness was probably histamines reacting to the foreign substance. The lump was of course the oil. To cure this situation, I now use a microwavable hot compress after the injection, followed by massaging the area. No more redness, no more lumps.

About my training and gains - The gains in strength came on strong during week 4. Patience is the key here. Weeks 5 and on showed great strength, and stamina. All workloads were substantially increased. Training was adjusted to a 2 on 1 off, one bodypart per day routine. 5 sets, 5 exercises per bodypart are not uncommon during this peak period. Legs sessions would sometimes go so long, that 2 days worked out pretty good, doing calves, hamstrings and glutes one day, with the various squats, legpress, deadlifts and such following the next day. Going into the final week of this 9 week cycle, I have gained a solid 15-17 pounds, way stronger, look a bit leaner, and am bigger according to the tape. I don't have exact measurements at this moment, as those should be posted after the test is out of my system and things return to normal. (if anyone's interested)

Side effects? None really. I had to buy some new slacks for work as my legs blew up a bit, and some shirts don't fit right anymore. I did have some nipple tenderness, probably due to the deca. Nothing to be alarmed about though. A few zits here and there. No rage/anger problems.

Conclusion � Yes, you can �drink� Winny, and Clambutteroil works. That said, I think this was a successful experiment. I'm glad I did it, and will certainly do another. It will be interesting to see how much of these gains stay. Sure, I could have gained more water weight, and a bit more fat, but that was not my objective. Next time I will probably go with sustanon and deca. Maybe I will even give the ttokyo products a shot. The eating thing is insane. I am getting so tired of eating every 3 hours! Next time, I will have a full physical exam, BF measurement from a dunktank, and a bit more knowledge.

Much thanks to all who helped me via the email and on the board answering my questions.

HelmsmaN


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Big Bad Booty Daddy

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From:The Garden State
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posted September 26, 2000 02:48 PM

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Good post Helmsman!!LOL!!! Congrats on your cycle and persistant quest for A/S knowledge.


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Maverik

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posted September 26, 2000 02:50 PM

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Damn good post, Helmsman. This is the best post I have seen lately. Good work.


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1911

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posted September 26, 2000 02:53 PM

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Excellent! Quality post brutha.

Later,


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HelmsmaN

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posted September 26, 2000 03:26 PM

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BUMP for da newbies


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BigCatratcho

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posted September 26, 2000 03:38 PM

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goo post

bumpa

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Cornellius

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posted September 26, 2000 08:01 PM

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Really good post bro!!


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finallygotlayed

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posted September 26, 2000 08:12 PM

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agreed, an intelligent thought out post, great for answering newbie questions. Also a great cycle, nice goin. Hope some of the strangers come back soon. A lot of good ol bros aren't posting here anymore, but your one of the respected here now helms, stick around will ya?

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8UP

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posted September 26, 2000 09:42 PM

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I'm a newbie..Yer post is damn good and informative.Thankyou for your input!


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Maverik

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posted September 26, 2000 10:50 PM

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Big BUMP for Helmsman. My respect for you has just gone up because of this great post. Not that it was bad before, but you know what I mean. Later...


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highflyer

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posted September 26, 2000 11:12 PM

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thanks bro, very informative. Great post!


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evissam

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posted September 26, 2000 11:13 PM

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For once, an intelligent and educational non-questioning post. Thanks.


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HelmsmaN

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posted September 27, 2000 12:26 PM

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Thanks bros. I will be posting other informative pieces in the future.


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B_Funk

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posted September 27, 2000 04:26 PM

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very good post bro

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Maverik

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posted September 27, 2000 05:11 PM

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BIG BUMP!


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bgriff

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posted September 27, 2000 07:13 PM

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Good post bro!!

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