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Deppnade

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posted September 26, 2000 02:23 AM

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i am a 19 yr old in college, i play football but the drug tests dont concern me that much, i have gotten into bodybuilding very heavily over the last 2 years, i am 6'2 1/2", and anywhere from 235-268, i have been thinking about doing steroids it seems like everyday, and i am going to do a cycle most likely up and coming, i get the jist that sust and dball are the way to go because receptors are at their peak and i should blast myself on my 1rst cycle, i just am not too knowledgable on what all the anti-negative things u talk about are, like i think novaladex, or estrid something or other

listen, all i can say is that i am 19, nig already, but am really interested in doing a safe cycle, and you guys know the answers. what should i take? how much?? and what to take to prevent side effects

trust me, i really appreciate all answers

drew


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BigJay81

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posted September 26, 2000 02:33 AM

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sust-500mg/week for 8weeks
d-bol 35mg/day for first 4 weeks."split the dose up every 4 hours"

take clomid 14days after last shoot of sust.

have nolvadex on hand.
if you need help e-mail me


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Pharm Animal

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posted September 26, 2000 03:34 AM

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DEP...you really need to read this board for about 2 morer months before asking questions as vague as this

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Deppnade

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posted September 26, 2000 11:20 AM

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i would love to research this board for months and months and then ask questions, but i hope to be 60 lbs bigger by then, and ask questions later, you know????


is the bset cycle for a beginner sustanon, dball, and winstrol????

and lastly, some guy at my school is trying to sell liquid dball, is there such a thing and if it is real, is it good????

thanks


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Deppnade

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posted September 26, 2000 11:21 AM

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i would love to research this board for months and months and then ask questions, but i hope to be 60 lbs bigger by then, and ask questions later, you know????


is the bset cycle for a beginner sustanon, dball, and winstrol????

and lastly, some guy at my school is trying to sell liquid dball, is there such a thing and if it is real, is it good????

thanks


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tries7

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posted September 26, 2000 11:28 AM

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dude, roiding is nessesary for everyone!!!!


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2skinny

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posted September 26, 2000 02:13 PM

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if the liquid dbol is called reforvit than thats real. it's not quite as good as the tabs but it's up there. I'd stay away from winstrol if your trying to bulk up. it's been known to have a cutting effect.

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KODIAK99

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posted September 26, 2000 02:21 PM

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be careful, your only 19 years old and have good size. You may still be growing on your own, and if you do test positive say goodbye to football. There is plenty of time to get started. If you must start. Sust500mg or 3cc a week and I would only go about 25 mg of Dbol a week for no more than 4 weeks. Nalvodex shouldn't be necessary, but Clomid will EOD after 8 weeks on Sus, wait 2-3 weeks to start, Clomid for 2-3 weeks, you'll know when your balls are working. I wouldn't stack Reforvit or deca with this first cycle. You should see how these chemicals react to your body and if you need, want, play better, with them.

Good Luck


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Big Bad Booty Daddy

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posted September 26, 2000 02:24 PM

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BigJay said it all bro. Only thing I'd say is scratch the Winny and add Primobolan.


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Deppnade

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posted September 26, 2000 08:21 PM

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thanks for the advice guys, is there such a thing as "overdoing" my first cycle??

i am gonna take 500 of sus a week, dball seems to be said as being good at 35 a week for the first four weeks per advice i received, if i jack up the amount is that going to be positive or detremental, for instance, 1000 and not 500 sus, and 50 dball a week, and by the way, a dumb question, is the clomid necessary??

thanks guys


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MUSTANG_18

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posted September 26, 2000 08:31 PM

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I THINK THAT 1000MG SUST AND 50MG D-BOL IS TOO HIGH FOR THE FIRST CYCLE AND WOULD INCREASE THE CHANCE OF SIDE AFFECTS. I THINK CLOMID WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. GOOD LUCK AND STAY SAFE

M18

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finallygotlayed

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posted September 26, 2000 08:46 PM

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I've never done a cycle, so this isn't from experiance, but I think I'm on the money with this one. 1000mg of sust is too much for a first timer. If you go higher than 1000mg per week side effects are supposed to become more evident. And the common belief is that if you've done 1000mg, you'd better do 1250 on the next cycle if you expect results. So I'd stay at 500mg. As for 50 Dbol per week, I think a lot of guys on the board would support that move, but again, I don't know this for sure. Good Luck

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BigJay81

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posted September 26, 2000 09:03 PM

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stick with dosses recomended above

clomid is necessary
14 days after last shot of sust take 100mg everyday for one week, then the second take 50mg/day for a week. you good to go.

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Deppnade

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posted September 26, 2000 09:06 PM

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do you guys trust ordering them off online dealers?


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Checkmatebloated

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posted September 26, 2000 09:13 PM

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Bubba you ain't gaining 60lbs in two month unless you start dropping a-50 bomb like candy and loading up on the 250. I do not recommend this your liver will fall out of your ass on 2 months of a-50. I recommend some Fina, sos 250, and primobolan. Lots and lots of primoblan. It is weak and very safe.

You are going to get many different opinions. The fina will may you very strong for your football needs and the sos will add the weight and start the primobolan at middle of your cycle and this will help you retain a good portion of your gains.

Now I was roiding at 15 years old and the d-bol and sos250 was my favorite teenage snack.


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Maverik

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posted September 26, 2000 09:19 PM

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Yep Big Jay has given some good suggestions. And don't expect to gain 60 lbs in a couple months bro. Typically, even a really good cycle only adds 15-20 lbs of good quality muscle. More is possible but not very likely. You may gain up to or over 30 but this will usually drop down once the water weight goes away.


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Deppnade

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posted September 26, 2000 09:25 PM

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alright, so i think u guys set me straight

i am going to start my cycle as soon as i get my stuff, which will be soon, before i start, does this sound right

sos 250 500mg week
dball 35-50 week
primo (dont know what is good weekly)

and i will get clomid for the negative


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MUSTANG_18

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posted September 26, 2000 09:50 PM

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I AM GOING TO USE PRIMO IN MY FIRST CYCLE TO. I AM GOING TO GO WITH 400MG A WEEK. IT IS GOING TO COST ME ALOT THOUGH. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR CYCLE.

M18


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Maverik

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posted September 26, 2000 10:47 PM

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Use 300-400 mg per week of primo.


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pds132

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posted September 26, 2000 10:52 PM

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WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR


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