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freak of nature

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posted September 25, 2000 03:20 PM

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Ok I will try this again. I am 6 foot 195lbs and my bf% is about 14%. What kind of quality mass do you think I could gain from this. Any feedback is appreciated.
wk sust proviron winny primo clomid
1 750-----25mgs/ed------------------50mg/eod
2 500-----25mg/ed-------------------50mg/eod
3 500-----25mg/ed-------------------50mg/eod
4 500-----25mg/ed-------------------50mg/eod
5 500-----25mg/ed-------------------50mg/eod
6 500-----25mg/ed---20mg/ed--300mg--50mg/eod
7 500-----25mg/ed---30mg/ed--300mg--50mg/eod
8 250-----25mg/ed---40mg/ed--300mg--50mg/eod
9--------------------40mg/ed--200mg--50mg/eod
10-------------------30mg/ed--200mg--50mg/eod
11-------------------30mg/ed--200mg--50mg/ed
12----------------------------------100mg/ed
13-----------------------------------50mg/ed


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freak of nature

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posted September 25, 2000 03:29 PM

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Bump. What do you guys think? Anybody.


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coolhandluke

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posted September 25, 2000 03:30 PM

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well, you really dont meed the proviron in there...its good to have some for gyno but no need to take it if you dont- i'm sure the clomid will be enough. Also you may wanna go for 750mg of sust for the first 2-3 weeks.
Also, winny tabs are expensive as hell and wont do much, try to get injectable winny if you like and take 1ml eod toward the end of your cycle.


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luckey

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posted September 25, 2000 03:39 PM

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hey bro the only advice i can give is keep the sus constant either 500 throught or 750 it self tapers as u know so dont worry about tapering everything elese is cool! good luck

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Maverik

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posted September 25, 2000 03:41 PM

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Looks pretty good. If you have enough go ahead and take the last week at 500mg of sust. Also, you should run the primo at 300 mg through all the weeks you are on it. Don't drop down to 200. Also if that is winny powder you are talking about I would stay at 50 mg ED and not worry about tapering. I just got done doing this on my last cycle and it worked pretty good. And I would take the proviron out and use some post cycle.


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Slopain

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posted September 25, 2000 03:48 PM

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Actually I think the proviron in there would be good. Not for anti-estrogen as much for freeing up some test in the body.. take a look at a quote from twisted steel on another board:
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I will concede that Proviron is in a class of drugs which can prohibit the binding of estrogen to its proper receptors, but this isn't in my opinion the intended purpose behind the use of proviron. Actually, the people who have figured out how to use it, are the ones In my area that succeed in competition.
Most of you realize that the presence of 100mg of testosterone wont translate into 100mg of free flowing testosterone within the users blood. Everyone faces once common impediment which effectively limits the efficiency of their steroid use. These road blocks are called plasma cells, (sex hormone binding globulins, or SHGB).
Im almost certain that when alot of you fall back to your bodybuilding literature, some alotment will be made to discuss these nebulous little bastards. Essentially, here is what we all face when we inject AAS. Steroid molecules have permeated the muscle walls and have entered the blood stream. In an ideal situation as many of these molecules as possible would be left unmolested to freely interact with tissue and bone cells to cause anabolism.
Unfortunately, the body intercepts a great many of these androgen molecules and renders them inert, through the binding action which occurs when androgenic stimuli bonds with these plasma cells (SHGB).
Now, the educated bodybuilders have realized that this process can indeed be circumvented. Thus the need for Proviron. Proviron is unique in three respects: A. Its highly Androgenic. B. It DOESNT AROMATIZE into estrogen. C. It has a high binding affinity with Plasma Cells.
Proviron, quite frankly is the single most misunderstood ancillary drug in the bodybuilders arsenal. Often, its used as a means to prevent gyno, although it does work for this intended purpose, it is almost a must use for anyone running a Highly Anabolic cycle to. Think of it as a strategic drug, proviron diverts the enemies (SGHB) attention, allowing for more free flowing testosterone. If you dont believe me, run 400mg of nandralone, 500mg of sustanon and 50mg of Proviron a day, along with .5mg of arimidex for complete aromatase inhibition.

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gearseeker

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posted September 25, 2000 05:16 PM

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Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks slopain. Thats the first time Ive looked at proviron as an adjunct to free up test. Sounds fucking great! Great info!

Now......off to buy proviron!


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Maverik

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posted September 25, 2000 05:19 PM

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Yeah, that's good info Slopain. Thanks.


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GetHuge

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posted September 25, 2000 06:30 PM

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Funny you should bring up Proviron's SHBG affinity to free up more test. I asked Bill Roberts the same thing and he said: "There are only micrometers of steroids bound to SHBG and they are not used up, it is a depot and a means of transporting them. In other words, no advantage to knocking steroids off SHBG. The amount of SHBG does not change the free concentration.


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freak of nature

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posted September 26, 2000 06:08 AM

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Thanks for the info guys. Great post Slopain.


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freak of nature

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posted September 26, 2000 12:33 PM

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Does anyone else have any input on this?


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