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Unity66

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posted September 25, 2000 03:01 PM

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id like to run a cycle through nov-march....5 months.
i injured my shoulder in a bike accident and ive been training naturally now for four months so i will have been 'off' for over 5 months when i start. this is by far the most advanced cycle ive yet to put together and would appreciate any of you boys comments/critiques-thanx

stats: 24yrs old, 5'7 @208lbs.....13% bodyfat (too high!) training consistently since 18....seriously the last three years.

wk***ara-test***dbol***deca
1*****750******50****500
2*****750******50****500
3*****750******40****500
4*****750******40****500
5*****500************400
6*****500************400
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***********eq
9*****500***400
10****500***400
11****250***400
12****250***400
*****t-prop.*****eq***winny(ed)**trenbolone
13****250********400
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17****250********400***50**********225
18****250********400***50**********225
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20****250********400***50**********225

im seriously considering this cycle and the only thing left for me to pick-up is deca and hcg. silymarin, cranberry extract....etc will be used throughout as will 50mg of proviron/day. plenty of nolva and clomid on hand. with such a long cycle should i run clomid eod or wait and go the hcg/clomid route immediately post cycle? i structured this cycle around good strength/size gains the first 10 wks...followed by another 10wks of hardening and defining my new found musculature... droping excess water weight. i have regular blood work and my cholesterol/bp are never a prob genetically...liver enzymes do get elevated but ill be taking care of my insides....is this overkill?

[This message has been edited by Unity66 (edited September 25, 2000).]


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gearseeker

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posted September 25, 2000 03:21 PM

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Nice idea. Im staying on for the next two years so 20 weeks seems fine. I would switch things around so when you come off your at a maintenance dose on everything. I would use the trenbelone earlier so you have a few weeks on Eq, wv, or primo at the end of the cycle. Trenbelone is strong. I wouldnt recomend it at the end of the cycle.


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2skinny

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posted September 25, 2000 03:35 PM

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gear seeker u r fucking crazy u will be dead by the end of ur cycle. i wouldn't go any longer than 14 weeks. if u take a couple of weeks off sometime in between it's not going to hurt u as long as u come down slowly. any weight u lose in those two weeks u will lose anyways

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~Goku~

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posted September 25, 2000 08:18 PM

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What madness


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Slopain

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posted September 25, 2000 08:42 PM

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2skinny you are mistaken. I see a patternin your posts, (the first one where you said multiple injection cause heart problems). Im not flaming you bro, but people stay ON forever. Yes its not that healthy if you do this, but many of the people you see on this board cycle 10-12 weeks. Thats a great way to do it, but for those that want the MASS you can't get away with 10 week cycles of sus250 at 250/week time on=time off.

Slopain


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marky

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posted September 25, 2000 09:16 PM

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Why not do two (4) month cycles with a 4 month bridge between? I did this last year and am very satisfied with the overall quality of the muscle I gained. I used EQ
to bridge. I will do this again in a couple of years.


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luckey

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posted September 25, 2000 09:21 PM

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hey bro u all are soem crazy mofo's hehe
i wish u luck because if u keep that shit up the only thing ull be growin is grass on ur grave split it up abit no need to hurry!perfection doesnt happen overnight.

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Unity66

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posted September 25, 2000 09:55 PM

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really, i dont see how this cycle is much different than using heavy androgens for 12wks. the tren is the only real healt risk as it has been found to be an initiator of cancer in lab mice, yet so has nolva and i dont have any familial history of cancer, heart probs....etc.

gearseeker...nice point. tren does supress endogenous test production easily so i may start it earlier and run the eq for 2-3wks at the end...no one ever answered my question bout the clomid--BUMP!


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted September 26, 2000 03:09 AM

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Guys tapering doesnt work. Your body doesnt start producing your own testosterone until you are cleaned out.

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Unity66

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posted September 26, 2000 03:47 AM

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i realize tapering doesnt work...hence my reason for running the tren/winny till wk 20. the eq is a long acting ester and will have built up in my system over 12wks (i also have a slow metaboilism). the only reason i would move the last dose to wk 18 is due to trens strong tendency to suppress endogenous test production and this would give me a two week jump start at kicking my scrotom into gear. yet the tren is acetate and will clear rather quickly...

bump for something usefull...


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M1KAI

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posted September 26, 2000 03:55 AM

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Bro's,
Im not into long cycles but i know a guy through my source who has been on for about 5 years also got dome bad ass gyno.

But i will be doing some short 20 day cycles after X-Mas as a little experiment rather than a 8 to 10 week cycle...!

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