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Julez

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posted September 25, 2000 01:09 PM

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For several months I've been stuck on the same weight(s) on my chest. It's pissing me off. To this end I'm about to do the first cycle in 3 years. I need to change my current regime on chest days, been doing it to long so. I'm doing 500mg Sus + 400mg Deca p/w

My current routine is:

1/ Bench : 12,8,10,10 (sometimes one rep max after 8)

2/ Dumbell press : same (no one rep max!)
OR
(alternates weak by week to hit 'inner' peks..) Seated 'wide angle' pec dec (shit forgot name of exercise)

3/ Decline press : same

4/ Incline press : same

I usually work out for 50 mins. Last time I did A/S's I could work out for upto 90 minutes without feeling that tired.

Should I go for more intensity or more exercise (reps/sets).

Any ideas on differect exercise or rep/set patterns on these dosages od deca/sust would be well appreciated.

Especially from poeple that've done it before!

Cheers.

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Julez
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jdismukes

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posted September 25, 2000 01:13 PM

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Do flyes.


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Natural Wonder

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posted September 25, 2000 01:15 PM

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CABLE AND JUICE


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Thick dawg

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posted September 25, 2000 01:27 PM

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You could do a couple of sets in the 4-6 rep range to build a little more streength. Adding some Dbol in will also help jumpstart your cycle and provide some quick strength gains.


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Mr. T

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posted September 25, 2000 01:30 PM

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Holy shit, you dont do flyes? Thats the best chest builder out their if you ask me. No cables, no machines, just dumbell flyes on a flat bench. Oh, I would do less sets and fewer reps too-


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duckman

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posted September 25, 2000 01:38 PM

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low reps 4-6 heavy weight i dont know about that flyes as a mass builder but then again i always do flyes and low reps so i cant tell
if it helps ....but you do get a great stretch...dont know much a bout juice????


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Julez

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posted September 25, 2000 01:48 PM

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Yep, I know a fair amount. I suppose it's quite subjective though what works for who. I got great results last time.

Putting it simply, the way I figure it Deca's MAIN strength is that it allows one to work harder and longer and recover quicker.

Sustenon's MAIN strength is that it's a great strength builder and allows greater assimilation of nutrients and their metabolisation.

I know both substances have some androgenic/anabolic process's

As I say I just wanted to hear some opionions. Last time I asked this question on Elitefitness 3 years ago I was told to do set's such as:

Press 12,10,8,1,8,10

etc.

Thanks for the advice about the fly's. I must
have been thick for not realising this!

Any more advice on overall length of workout / intensity?

I think I might strike a balance between both. I love intense workouts.

Oh yeah, I also am throwing 40mg clomid in EOD + 3 weeks after end of cycle soon as I get some. Should'nt effect gains too much should it?

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Yoda

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posted September 25, 2000 02:28 PM

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Well here's a thought, if 4 exercises aren't working for you, maybe you need to cut the volume and up the intensity!!!! I doubt adding more will ever be better. Why not pick two compound exercises like the Flat Bench and Incline Bench and hit it H-A-R-D!!!!! I know you probably think your working hard now, but if you try this and know you'll only be doing 2 exercises I garuntee you will work harder than ever before. Just keep trying to push more weight or more reps every workout. Your probably over worked right now. Just my .02 but I did the same thing and all my weights are going up consistentally.


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Maverik

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posted September 25, 2000 02:31 PM

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Yep I agree with what the others said. Try lowering the sets to 3 per exercise and keep very low reps. Also incorporate some fly movements in there.


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Mr. T

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posted September 25, 2000 02:36 PM

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My chest is the best part on my body and all I do is 2 sets of dumbell flat bench, 2 sets of dumbell inclined bench, and 2 sets of flyes. Go heavy and stretch those flyes out until your chest is on fire. Concentrate on slow negative movements-


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thefantom1

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posted September 25, 2000 03:53 PM

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Here is a simple chest workout that I use (each body part once a week)

Flat bench. 135x10 225x10 245x8 275x6 (once
in a while I'll do 295 for 3 or 4)

Flat Flyes... 50x8 3 sets

Weighted dips--80x15 80x12 80x10

that is it for chest...give it a shot and make sure you only train each body part once a week...

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Must be self determined and push myself on"


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