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Novice 
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Hello to everyone. First I just wanted to say that I have learned more from all your posts then I could find anywhere else. I appreciate all the great info that you guys share. I having been working out off and on for the last 4yrs. I am 28, 5'11'' and 175lbs. My goal is to get to 200ripped. I am wanting to start my first cycle, and have a good friend who is very close to a pro. He can get me a 50ml EQ, 2 10cc of T/200, and he said he has Primobolan, and Laruabolin and possible others. My question is what should I get, and how to cycle? Should I just start with the EQ and test. Should I get clomid and nolvadex. Apolgize if my spelling is off. I would appreciate any input, and thanks again.     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Jay D, Does your friend have any suggestions? If he is almost a pro seems like he would have some advice for you.....just a thought. I, by no means am a guru, but I would suggest 500mg/wk of test for weeks 1-9. As for an anabolic I guess if you only have Laura or EQ, I would go with the EQ @ 300mg/wk for weeks 1-12. You could add some primo in there @ 200mg per week starting week 8 and continue until week 12 or 13. As for clomid to play it safe take 50mg EOD during the cycle and two weeks after last injection of test take 100mg ED for two weeks and then 50mgED for another 2. I wouldn't bother with Nolva it sucks, if anything use Arimidex or proviron. This is just my opinion others will disagree, I'm sure. | ||
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Novice
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Thanks LoMAx, My buddy is not the pro, someone he knows, so I never get to talk to the pro, so it is hard to ask all the questions through my friend. I guess this guy is sponsored and get thousands for juice. So I don't need to taper off the test? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 398 |
Yeah the t200 with the laura would work. But t200 takes a while to kick in so you might want to throw in some dbol to kick things off. You could also get some of the primo and use it toward the end of the cycle. Take the test at around 400 mg per week and the laura at 300-400mg per week for at least 8 weeks. If you wanted to add the primo you could do 300 mg per week starting in about week5 and run it till about 3 weeks after your last test shot. Don't forget the clomid and nolva. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 118 |
Jay D, The t200 is enanthate, I'm assuming. Good thing is it takes a while to "bleed" out of the system so it is self tapering. This is also sort of a bad thing because it takes so long to get out it can cause problems with recovery to your HPTA. (keeping gains) There are guys who will tell you different but if I had the choice I would use sustanon250 or Omnadren or even Duratest. These are still Testosterones but are blends of different esters so they will effect your hormonal axis differently. As for your choices of anabolics I would choose deca but you said you can only get laura or EQ. I chose the EQ for you because there is less water retention and it does not have the compounding effect as with Laura. Laura compounds after every injection so if you are taking 300mg/wk by week 4 it is like you have close to 1200mg in your system. This is just a simplified example, it's not that simple but it's the basic theory. It depends on half life, metabolism, esters, etc. You are going to get mixed suggestions so just remember: 1. If using Testosterone use it for about 8-9 weeks and do not taper at the end (straight dose the whole cycle) 2. If using anabolics such as EQ, Laura, Deca use about 3-400mg per week. Except for Laura I would use 2-250mg/per week because of the compounding effect. 3. If using anabolics such as Primo use this compound toward the end of the cycle. It has a tendency to allow users to maintain gains because it is not stressful on your HPTA (hormonal axis). It gives you the advantage of using an anabolic while coming off the hardr stuff and allowing your system to return to normal. 4. Clomid can be used 50mg EOD during the cycle and 100mg per day for two weeks, 2 weeks after last inject of test and then 50mg per day for a week or two after that. Some guys will tell you it is a waste to use clomid during the cycle but I look at it this way, it only can help. Lomaximo | ||
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Cool Novice 
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The Laura is a very slow starting drug, but very long lasting. Lomaximo is dead right - it will compound because it has such a long half life. So you will want to watch your Laura doses, but then again you'll have people on this board that will tell you to do 400 a week. It's your choice, but remember you only get one "first cycle". Do your homework and don't be afraid to ask questions. I researched for 2 solid years before I jumped. Take your time, do it right. |
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posted September 25, 2000 12:55 PM