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ChefRski

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posted September 25, 2000 09:42 AM

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Oh....by the way...IT SEEMS THAT BIFF BOOM HAS SOME PEOPLE TO ANSWER TO.

IAAF Confirms Hunter Tested Positive
By Stephen Wilson
Associated Press
Sep 25 2000 4:02AM


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SYDNEY - Marion Jones will not only have to beat world-class athletes to win five gold medals, she'll have to overcome a world-class distraction. Track officials say her husband, shot put champ C.J. Hunter, tested positive for the banned substance nandrolone.
Istvan Gyulai, general secretary of the International Amateur Athletics Federation, track's governing body, confirmed Hunter flunked a drug test. He would not say when or where the test was conducted.

However, earlier Monday IOC drug chief Prince Alexandre de Merode said an athlete tested positive for nandrolone at the Bislett Games in Oslo, Norway, on July 28. De Merode did not specifically name Hunter.

Hunter is not competing in Sydney, but is credentialed as a coach for his wife, who won the 100 meters on Saturday and is trying to win an unprecedented five gold medals. Jones' next race is the 200 on Wednesday.

Hunter finished second at the U.S. trials in June and at the Bislett Games.

But he withdrew from the U.S. team Sept. 11, eight days after arthroscopic knee surgery in North Carolina.

"I know what's going on and I am aware of the allegations and am going to defend myself vigorously," Hunter told NBC.

Gyulai said if Hunter is found guilty of abusing steroids, he would face a two-year suspension.

Craig Masback, head of USA Track & Field, confirmed that the IAAF has referred an "eligibility matter involving an American athlete" to the federation. He refused to confirm or deny that the athlete was Hunter, citing the organization's confidentiality rules.

Masback insisted he had "no idea about any facts" regarding Hunter's case.

"I don't know anything," Masback said.

Nandrolone helps athletes gain strength and muscle bulk by repairing the damage of high-level training and competition. It has been involved in hundreds of recent doping cases. Some scientists have speculated that nandrolone may be contained in improperly labeled nutritional supplements that many athletes use.

Five athletes - including a Latvian rower who tested positive for nandrolone - have been expelled from the games for flunking drug tests. Several Bulgarian weightlifters were thrown out for testing positive for furosemide, a banned diuretic used by lifters to flush fluids from their system to make the weight.

A number of others, including weightlifters from Romania, Norway and Taiwan, were caught cheating in tests conducted before the Games, officials said.

The 330-pound Hunter had been among the favorites for a shot put gold medal in Sydney before his injury. Ranked No. 1 in the world last year after winning the world championship with a throw of 71-6, Hunter also was the bronze medalist at the 1997 world championships. He is a three-time U.S. champion and the 1995 world indoor silver medalist. He finished seventh at the 1996 Olympics.

There have been no reports linking Jones to use of banned performance enhancers.

"This is an individual matter," said Francois Carrard, IOC director general, adding that Jones is not under suspicion.

"If she does not test positive, we should not infer (guilt) from one individual to another," he said.

De Merode accused U.S. track and field officials of covering up five positive drug tests before the 1988 Seoul Olympics. He said he didn't recall the names of the athletes, but that some may have won medals during the games.

In response, the U.S. Olympic Committee said there were actually eight cases in 1988, and all the athletes involved were cleared because they used the drug, ephedrine, inadvertently in an herb supplement called Mahuang.

"We never released the names and the IOC was not notified because the athletes were all exonerated," USOC spokesman Mike Moran said. "Any assertion by Prince de Merode that there was some sort of coverup is absolutely outrageous."

Arne Ljungqvist, the IAAF's anti-doping chief, said last week that USA Track & Field had failed to disclose 12-to-15 positive drug cases in the past two years.

"The athletes feel that the IAAF and USA Track & Field are covering up and have special rules for American athletes," said Johann Olav Koss, the Norwegian speedskating gold medalist who is now an IOC member.

"I regret Johann would say that," Masback said. "It is a matter of fact and a matter of record that USA Track & Field tested out of competition before any other sport and any other country. We've tested more people for more substances over a longer period of time. And, unfortunately, we've busted more people than any other sport.

"Are we doing it perfectly? No, we're not. But we have set the standard for the rest of the sports world. ... I am far from being defensive about what we are doing. I am extremely proud of what we've done. We've been the leader in the world on this matter. We've paid a price for being the leader."

Masback, who has been in charge of American track for three years, defended its record and its procedures.

"We have continued to do in-competition and out-of-competition testing in a very vigorous and expensive fashion," he said. "We've exonerated some athletes, and we've convicted some athletes.

"USA Track and Field and the IAAF have nothing to hide or be ashamed of."

Gyulai said he was sad that the reports on Hunter were coming now.

"I regret that this news is breaking when Marion Jones is running," he said. "It's terrible whether it's true or not. It has nothing to do with the Olympics. ... If it's not true, it would seem there are efforts to smear the wonderful days here."

My question is why didnt he get something better the Nandrolene. There is other stuff out there that won't show up on a test yet, right?

Good Read


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ulter

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I don't think so, he would have needed a mask from what I've read. But I think it's no coinsidence that Marion was going to run the day the story broke.


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CrushDaddy

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posted September 25, 2000 09:52 AM

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I heard about that last night. The other stuff was probably out of his system.


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barney

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posted September 25, 2000 10:22 AM

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why are these crew all using nandrolane,? arent there trainers smart enough to provide better drugs that dont hang in the system?
at this level there seems to e a lot of fuckn idiots, maybe we need to get these guys reading EF boards a little more..


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ChefRski

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posted September 25, 2000 11:14 AM

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Hey Ulter...last night Bob Costas even said that the Nandro was an Old drug and that there were better drugs that cleared the body faster.....I was Shocked as hell that ole Bobby...knew that much about AS.

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Did anyone see the size of this guy? When I looked at him, I didn't shout "DECA!"

He is over 300 plus pounds, most of it is fat, but he is a BIG boy.

He could have taken a Nor supplement right before a test, or he could have lost his mind and used Deca to help rehab his knee. But either way, he is stupid for messing around with either. One, because the supplements won't do all that much, and second - anybody who has even listened to ANYONE or anything, knows that Deca stays noticable (not not active) in the body for up to 18 months! Poor dumb bastard....


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I would bet that he really didn't use deca or any other actual nandrolone. That would be stupid, when there's other stuff like Epogen that isn't detected in urine tests. My guess is that he used a norandro supplement not knowing that it can show up as nandrolone. Norandrostene supplements don't contain nandrolone like the article stated, but they are converted to nandrolone by the liver.

Sucks to be him either way.

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I'll tell you why he use DECA. He didn't!!
at least he thought he wasn't

a lot of Labs that make counterfeit products put nandrolone in their products to give it some effect, he was probably shotting what he thought was Parabolan, or Primobolan or even Masterone when in fact it was the cheaper Nandrolone.
I mean think about it, for the price of 1,000mg of primobolan or 500mg of Parabolan I can get 3,000mg of DECA any lab counterfeiting AS will be well served to put some cheap TEST or DECA into their product that is labeled as a more exotic expensive AS, that way the user feels or sees some type of effect and keeps buying the fake shit.

So he got fucked over with bunk shit!!!

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posted September 25, 2000 06:05 PM

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Big Rick Rock...That's something I didn't even consider.

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Good point, that makes even more sense. But why Deca, why not simple test, cheaper and better kick?

But I pity the person who sold him that - could you imagine him coming after you?


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The Man Child

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That does make perfect sense except, if your an Olympic Athlete you have some of the best connections in the world. It is absolutely a must to get "exotic" gear tested. You dropped the ball on this one C.J. in your case the shot put. Besides he's plenty big, why not use some Anavar, Halo, Cheque Drops or Suspension. Awesome strength and out of your system fairly quickly. In my opinion he would be better off taking some Primobolan Depot, shedding some of that fat, and becoming more explosive and quick. But what do I know....


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It said that nandralone is often contained in supplements that athletes use, which supplements are these .. gimme some

Nandralone is often used by athletes because they are not smart. It helps with strength, size, and joint pain. It also has a good rep. Unfortunately they don't know that bad points of deca .. should have done their research

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If a person is going to use steroids before a contest. Why not take a steroid the IOC no method to test for such as Growth Horomone.
If not this maybe another steroid for which there is no test. Nandrolone has been in use since what the mid-seventies.
He should have known better.

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ChefRski

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posted September 26, 2000 12:41 AM

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Man Child...well said....love the reply


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these guys need to get smarter. they use dierectics to mask results ( you'll get caught everytime). you would think they would stay water based and go off the week before like "natural bodybuilders" growth hormone is used and can now be tested but as for me they should ALL be allowed to use to make it a even playing fiels as there will always be cheaters so why not make it fair for everyone and just change the name to DRUG INDUCED OLYMPICS (JOKE)


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posted September 26, 2000 02:09 PM

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..anyone else

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..anyone else

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Yeah, one other consideration which has not been publicized is the sensitivity of the Sydney testing lab. It is as much as 10 times more sensitive than tests used at previous olympics. So your average, say Bulgarian, athlete gets tested by his coach to make sure he's clean, but the test they run on him (pre-olympics) isn't NEARLY as sensitive as the Sydney test. So then they protest because, in their mind at least, they're clean. But I don't think this applies to the case of C.J. Hunter. From what I've heard he tested 1000 times the limit set for nandrolone, and also had a T:EpiT ratio above 6 (in other words he got caught for test as well). I don't know of any OTC supplements that work that well! So either he is a genuine idiot, or he got some counterfeit gear that wasn't what he thought it was.


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what a dumbass!! gotta be smarter than that.


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I think it's safe to assume that C.J. knows all about the detection time for Deca. If he did indeed use Deca, maybe the reason he was caught is improved testing for nandrolone. It's conceivable that the 12-18 month figure for nandrolone may be out of date.

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