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Mr H

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posted September 24, 2000 03:19 AM

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Great post by a very intelligent man that deserves to be re-introduced into circulation
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1. Why do so many people use large gauge needles to inject?

this is totally unecessary- almost anything will go through a 25g needle- yet how often, I hear people using 21g or even 20g(cannons). The only reason that I bring this up is that
scar tissue can become a big issue with frequent and/or long term use- USE SMALL
GAUGE whenever possible- which is all the time- if you are injecting suspension heat it
up- it is often granular and if not heated will only go through a large gauge pin. heating it up will cause solute to go into solution.

2. Why is it,or so it seems, that so few use drawing needles?

these puppies are cheap 4$ for a hundred. that way the needle you inject with is clean
and sharp as can be. not only that you can use a 18g to draw- you can draw up anything with 18g in a matter of seconds. its sterile and makes everything easier.

3. why on earth does anyone re-use needles?

Ok, sometimes you run out, this should not happen, but if it does make sure to clean
them with alcohol. other wise just order a bunch when you get them, they are pretty
cheap and range from 12-28$ per 100 depending on gauge, source and manufacturer.
Stock up on pins- dont risk infection for a 25 cent syringe. the doctors visit is going to cost you more than many boxes of pins.

4. injection volume- I often see people posting that they have done several one or two cc injections- heres a little breakdown that may suprise you:

glutes- can usually take 5cc per injection

quads- 2.5 to 3.5 cc considered safe range

delts 2-3 cc considered safe

calves- only if you want nerve damage- not advised

soviets+ eastern bloc atheletes did 10cc injections into glutes and quads- I dont
recommend this but just goes to show the capacity.

Peace
BTW- scar tissue can limit muscle growth, contractions, flexibility and can result in loss of structural integrity making muscle tears more likely.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 24, 2000 03:30 AM

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Macro is the man.I wish he was still actively contributing to new threads,I've learned a lot from him.


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Omega44

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posted September 24, 2000 04:05 AM

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i use the one time needles that u use once and through out, the cost like 20 cents a pop. but im from canada, in the states i hurd its hard to get pins.


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Mr H

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posted September 24, 2000 12:05 PM

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Back to the top.


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Quadzilla

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posted September 24, 2000 12:45 PM

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I never understood reusing needles either. I bought 100 3mL,1",23gauge pins at wal-mart for $15. If you can afford the gear, you should be able to afford the pins!!
I remember this post. It was pretty interesting, including the responses. I would encourage newbies to check this entire thread and the point/counter-point between Macro, 2Thick, and E2 on test for a first cycle. Look in the Archives, new guys. There is probably more useful info on these two threads than any five that I can think of.

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Mr H

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posted September 24, 2000 05:11 PM

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What happened to all the newbies that loved to bump posts just to increase their post total? HELP ME OUT GUYS!!

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Vinny69

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posted September 24, 2000 05:25 PM

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what state do u live in that walmart sells pins??
i live in NY and pins are like golden nuggets here.....i think every fukin state but NY sells pins in a convenience store....
i was gonna order from 2thick but he's out of comission for a while i guess....
i live near the city ...i was thinkin connecticut but im not sure if they are legal there either....
thanks for the help//
vinn


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Quadzilla

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posted September 24, 2000 05:41 PM

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Vinny,
I live in Alabama. You can find pins here just as easy as you please. Hell, I heard that somewhere in England you can exchange your used pins for new ones for free. It helps stop the spread of disease by sharing needles, I guess.
Of course, it is also legal to posess steroids there, as long as you don't try to sell, or buy them. How does that work? How the Hell did you get them in the first place? LOL!
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O-town

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posted September 24, 2000 06:55 PM

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Bump.

What's the smallest pin Ganabol 50 can fit through?


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Yoda

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posted September 24, 2000 07:07 PM

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Vinny, in Ct you can buy upto 10 needles at a time legally. But that doesnt say you cant go from one pharmacy to the next and keep buying 10 every time!!! Its the law, I already called the state police and asked them, then went to a pharmacy and did it for my "B-12" shots, LOL!!!


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