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 Low LH, FSH and Test levels
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Novice 
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hey guys, i did a 12 week cycle of 200mg deca/week and 1cc of winny every other day.. the cycle ended in june, i am experiencing sexual side affects. low libido, and sometimes impotence.. is this normal? (i dont think so) can anybody tell me what to do? i went to a urologist, he said my nuts were fine, went to a endicronologist, said its some glands that stimulate pitutuary glends, not working.. i asked him if i should take hcg, he said that wouldnt solve the problem.. so, i dunno.. any suggestions?? by the way my lh is 1.8 (avg is 4), my fsh is 1.7 (avg 4.8) and my test level is 110, which an avg persons test level is b/w 220~1200.. i have been working out all this time, but i dont sem to recover.. anyway.. thanks for ur time..andre     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1003 |
What your experiencing is a supressed H-P-T-A. Hypothalamic - Pituitary - Testicular -Axis. Your Pituitary gland isn't producing the needed abounts of LH and FSH to stimulate testosterone production within the Leydig cell's of the testies. This process begins by stimulating the Hypothalymus into producing "GhRh". Unless your system has been fried, two weeks of clomid should bring everything back up to speed. 100mg ED for two weeks. ------------------  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 616 |
I don't know Steel. The low levels of FSH and LH point to a suppression of GnRH. While clomid should increase levels of LH, FSH and testosterone, I doubt if it will stimulate the hypothalamus into producing GnRH. What I am saying is that while clomid might get some of the hormone levels back into the normal range, and maybe alleviate the symptoms, it does not get to the root of the problem. Andre, did the endocrinologist not have any suggestions? | ||
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Novice
Posts: 5 |
the endocrinologist told me to stay of. til the end of october.. which will be like 6 months at the end of cycle. but he didnt tell me what he was gonna do next. do u guys know which one did this? deca or winstrol? what should i do? | ||
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Novice
Posts: 5 |
the endocrinologist told me to stay of. til the end of october.. which will be like 6 months at the end of cycle. but he didnt tell me what he was gonna do next. do u guys know which one did this? deca or winstrol? what should i do?
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1003 |
Its the only remedy available to him Anabolicm. Andre, these low hormone levels precipitated steroid use. Your H-P-T-A function has been supressed. Thus, the low levels of Luteinizing and Folical Stiumulating hormone. The advice of your physician vexes me. It seems to boarder on genuine indifference. If you dont bring these hormone levels up, quickly your going to experience a host of endcronilogically induced problems. What were your estradiol lvls? To what extent are your testies atrophied? Determining the answers to these questions will shed light on the problem. Generally, treatment of hypogonadism revolves around the therapuetic administration of Gonadotropin because something within the Pituitary isn't functioning normally, thus we see only a deficit in LH. If blood tests determined high amounts of LH, but low testosterone then your testicals leydig cells are "fucked up", thus the need for hormone replacement in the form of testosterone. Everything with you is low. Find another physician quick, if not fork the cash over at a longevity clinque. Your going to need a couple weeks of HCG in conjunction with clomid to get the plumbing working once more. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1003 |
Ohh btw, clomid targets the Hypothalamus, what his dealing with is "negative feedback inhibition at the hypothalymus". Thus, the need for clomid and hcg ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 111 |
I was on a deca cycle and am experiencing the same kind of problems. A total loss of sexual desire. Have not been to see the doctor yet. Tried clomid but it did not help much. Sorry my keyboard is fucked up! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 90 |
Hey Andre/Ffactor...did y'all use clomid during or post cycle?? Just curious, as I am about to do my first cycle and am curious as to whether these did not help you or if you did not use them at all, which is now leading to the problems...I'm doing eq/dbol, since I've heard lots about "deca dick" and won't risk that...drop me an e-mail please... ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 742 |
I agree with Twisted somewhat! I think you should take clomid 100mg for a week and then 50mg for 2 weeks. No HCG! I think its a waste. It mimics the LH and once stoped the LH will still be non existent. Skip the HCG IMO! Take the clomid and that will get the HPTA back in order. The HCG is a temporary solution but once you stop it the HPTA needs to recover... I feel HCG is good for maintaining ball size during a long cycle 8+ weeks. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 5 |
did winstrol or deca cause this? i was planning on doing another cycle, but i guess i wont soon.. my nuts didnt shrink.my libido went way down and experiencing impotence.. sucks.. is clomid a temporary fix? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 616 |
Guys, I know you are only trying to help and that your intentions are the best. However, I do not agree with the advice given above. Not because the science isn't correct or that the remedies suggested would not work. Rather, it is because I believe it is in Andre's best interest to follow the advice of his endocrinologist. At the very least, Andre should consult with his endocrinologist before implementing a self-medicated approach. If Andre lacks confidence in his physician, then he should by all means obtain a second opinion from another qualified endocrinologist. This is my opinion Andre. The decision is yours! |
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posted September 21, 2000 04:45 PM