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 why do women starve themselves and go it a no-carb diet?
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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i meant to say and call it a no-carb diet! i have one my girlfriends that been busting her ass in the gym, and know because of her work-out partner she is on a low-carb diet, diet my ass they starve themselves and have a lil protein here and there, and thats there diet. im going to make her read this so could someone shed some light on why this is bad, nothing i say changes. ------------------ [This message has been edited by @LRG (edited September 21, 2000).]     | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 33 |
Same reason as men do! ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
Tell her shes a moron, b/c not eating slows your metabolsim and when she finally does start to eat again it will lead to rapid weight gain and it'll be harder to lose. Instead she could eat 5-6 small meals a day to keep her metabolism moving, and she wouldn't have that problem. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 66 |
i beleive that you should still eat plenty fats and proteins on a low-carb diet ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
Why is she on it? What are her goals? I am slowly coming off the Keto diet right now, but the only reason I was on it was to drop bf for my sport. I have to be small with very strong muscle tone. I am a triathlete. I didn't do this for looks. She should listen to you, it sounds as if she does not need to lose weight. Also mention to her that when she loses the fat, she is going to lose muscle too. you can't get around that. DarkAngel | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 645 |
Hey bro, women know everything. My girl does the same thing, starve herself. Even though all I do is bodybuild, talk bodybuilding and live bodybuilding see won't listen to me, so if your girlfriend is reading this here is the gospel. Starving yourself doesn't work because your body goes into starvation mode and begins to hang on to every calorie it can, your motabloism slows and even if you lose some in the begining you will gain more weight than you had before when you come off the diet, because your body is saving calories for the next starvation time. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 534 |
your right she should still 5-6 meals a day w/ protein and fats, but she doesnt--she eats three times and their not even meals, she picks at food those three times a day, and thats not healthy and sure wont get you to your goal! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 51 |
They are stupid! plain and simple. 9 out of 10 chicks dont have enough since to wipe their ass. Just evolution i guess. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 148 |
Actually the body will eventually take what he needs in the muscles b4 burning fat if they don't eat enough cals...
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
9 out of 10 huh? Hmm. DarkAngel :b | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 241 |
tell her to read this and to be open minded1. The basic ketogenic diet - new information on the ultimate hardcore diet. In recent consultations with my personal clients I have seen an increase in questions and studies on the topic of dieting. In response I would now like to share with you what I have found to be the ultimate in hardcore dieting-THE KETOGENIC DIET. I will also tell to you about a controversial method for entering ketosis using injectable insulin, and why you might want to consider this secret weapon. Working with my personal consultation clients, I have found that there is no better way to get them ripped and into contest ready shape than the use of a modified ketogenic diet. In fact, when helping a bodybuilder get ready for a contest, I will not work with him until he is in the metabolic state called ketosis. This state is the point at which the body burns fats for fuel in the absence of carbohydrates. A high fat diet you ask-won't that make me fat? The answer is YES. If you do not restrict carbohydrates, perhaps there is no better way of getting fat. The answer is NO if you restrict your carbohydrates to the point that your body makes the metabolic shift from burning carbohydrates for its daily energy needs to burning fat. This metabolic shift occurs when your blood sugar levels drop below normal and your body starts converting fatty acids into what is called ketones or fractured fats. At this point your body will burn those ketones as its primary energy source. More on this in a moment, let's first take a look at the problems with traditional low-fat diets, especially when used by people who are not fat (i.e. athletes) in order to better understand the exclusive benefits to the high fat, low carbohydrate ketogenic diet. Traditional Low fat diets: Low fat diets make the body's metabolism lazy. The body will prefer to get all of its energy requirements from glycogen (carbohydrates) than from the body's fat reserves. Low fat sends the body into starvation mode, it tries to hold on to body fat, and will burn muscle instead. When carbohydrate stores are exhausted the body will burn protein before switching to fat. Carbohydrates increase serotonin levels and cause sleepiness. Carbs cause insulin swings that cause the body to deposit unburned carbs as body fat. Protein supplements are needed for the bodybuilder on a low fat diet. Low-fat foods are much more expensive than the conventional version and contain more "chemistry" i.e. are highly processed. The high fat, low carbohydrate ketogenic diet: Increases lean body mass without steroids while dieting. Maximizes the bodybuilding effects of your own hormones such as testosterone, insulin, and natural GH (growth hormone). Lowers cortisol levels resulting in reduced catabolism or muscle breakdown. Increases energy level compared to low-fat diets. Decreases body fat without sacrificing lean mass: lose 90% fat and only 10% muscle vs. the 60% fat and 40% muscle loss of other diets. Burning fat is less efficient which results in an ever increased metabolic rate. Plentiful supply of protein-found in all the meat that is consumed. This diet makes an excellent base for using additional "tricks" that stimulate metabolism and burn additional body fat. Drugs like clenbuterol, Cytomel, Synthroid, Phenyltropic PPA and even caffeine become more effective. Before explaining how a ketogenic diet works there are three things many dieters do to get ready. First of all, before you start on this diet, many athletes get a physical including blood work. Among other things, this gives you a baseline cholesterol level. Knowing that your cholesterol levels are healthy at the start of a high fat diet is a good safety precaution. PLEASE NOTE: This diet is controversial and should not be used by pregnant women. Second, to achieve goal results on a ketogenic diet, or any diet for that matter, it is important to determine how many calories you eat each day? To best answer this question you need to calculate your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) and your Active Metabolic Rate (AMR.) Your BMR is the number of calories your body needs to sustain basic body functions while at rest. This means if you have a BMR of 2000 calories, you need to take in this many calories each day to simply maintain your body weight if you were to spend the whole day at rest. Your AMR is the amount of calories your body needs to sustain basic functions plus the calories needed to perform at your average daily activity level. If you eat more calories than your AMR then you will gain weight, if you eat less calories than your AMR then you will lose weight. It is that simple. 2. Calculating caloric intake based on your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) and your Active Metabolic Rate (AMR). Here is the basic formula for calculating your BMR and AMR. (Do not worry if this looks hard, an easy way follows.) Women: 655 + [4.36 x Weight (lbs.)] + [4.32 x Height (inches)] - (4.7 x Age) = your BMR Men: 66 + (6.22 x Weight (lbs.)] + [12.7 x Height (inches)] - (6.8 x Age) = your BMR Next, to determine the amount of total calories your active body needs or its AMR simply multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor listed below. Lightly active (normal, everyday activities)... BMR x 1.3 = Maintenance Calorie Level Moderately active (exercise 3 to 4 times a week)... BMR x 1.4 = Maintenance Calorie Level Very active (exercise more than 4 times a week)... BMR x 1.6 = Maintenance Calorie Level Extremely active (exercise 6 to 7 times a week for more than 1 hour duration)... BMR x 1.8 = Maintenance Calorie Level Interestingly, simply by changing from a lightly active lifestyle to a very active lifestyle you can increase your caloric intake by 24% (about 500 calories). Once you've completed the above calculations you should cut your AMR by 15% and consume this number of calories in total each day while on the ketogenic diet. For a quick and easy way to calculate all that, here's a web site that will do the math for you: http://tqd.advanced.org/10991/german/bmr.html The third thing to do before you begin is to purchase Ketostix from your local pharmacy. They are found behind the pharmacy counter, but you do not need a prescription to purchase them. These sticks are traditionally used by diabetics to measure the amount of ketones in their urine and are an intrigal part of a successful ketogenic diet, but more on this later. How a ketogenic diet works: This diet starts at around 6-8 p.m. on Sunday night with a meal of carbohydrates and lasts until the following weekend (approximately 5-7 days). This Sunday night meal should be made up of simple carbs like breakfast cereal or fruit and no fats. Complex carbs like pasta, bread, or rice should be avoided as they take a long time for your body to break down and use as fuel. We want carbs that are easily available to the body in order to create an insulin spike prior to the beginning of the diet. This insulin spike will allow the body to lower blood sugar levels and enter ketosis more efficiently once you begin the high fat, low carb portion of the diet. Following this final high carb meal and lasting until you enter ketosis, you need to eat about 75 to 80% of your daily calories from fat and 20% to 25% daily calories from protein. This very high fat intake is necessary to enter ketosis as quickly as possible so that you can begin the fat burning process. If the protein amounts are too high, then the body might not be able to make the required metabolic shift to producing ketones. More importantly, you must not eat more than 15-20 grams of carbs during this period. This means that you can eat no more than 3-4 grams of carbs per meal spread out between 5-6 meals per day. Eating 20 grams of carbs per day is fine, but eating all 20 grams of carbs at once will definitely bring you out of ketosis. You may be asking yourself what kinds of food can be eaten on this diet that are high in fat and also contain no carbs. Unfortunately, the menu on this diet is very limited. Few foods contain near zero carbs. Fortunately, you can eat any combination of ground beef, prime rib, and sirloin steaks, which all contain high amounts of fat with zero carbs as long as you eat hem without breading or sauces. Chicken with the skin on is also a good choice. This is also your chance to eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese and even McDonald's beef patties without the bread or condiments. You will definitely have to be careful at restaurants because you never know exactly how the food is prepared. Eggs are good while on a ketogenic diet; they have less than 1 gram of carbs per egg, but be careful with any dairy products like processed cheeses, which often contain 2-3 grams of carbs per slice. Other foods like sausage, pork, flounder, cheddar cheese, tuna, and butter have near-zero carbs and are high in fat. Green vegetables like lettuce, broccoli, and celery are great as they are made up of mostly water and contain near-zero carbs. When it comes to food choices the bottom line is that you have to read nutrition labels. If you are not sure if the food contains carbs simply don't eat it. Click here for a comprehensive guide to high fat, low carb foods on Elite Fitness. In terms of training it would be great if you could do aerobics and weight train with the same energy and intensity as you would with carbohydrates in your system. Unfortunately you cannot. When your body is in a state of ketosis, you will probably feel a little lethargic, especially the first week. This doesn't mean that you should stop aerobic activity or weight training-just lower the intensity. Limit aerobics to 2 days per week on an empty stomach first thing in the morning. Limit weight training to 2 or 3 days during the week on nonaerobic days. You should train big muscle groups like legs, back, and/or chest on Monday when you still might have stored glycogen in your muscles. Save the small muscle groups like arms, shoulders, and calves for Tuesday or Wednesday. By about Wednesday your body should be in ketosis. This means that there will be detectable ketone bodies present in your urine, which you can measure with a Ketostix. Remember, the darker the shade of purple on the stick, the deeper you are in ketosis. Most people will reach only the moderate level (pink to light purple) while others will be able to get into deep ketosis more easily. Once you are in at least moderate ketosis it is o.k. to up your protein intake to 35-40% of your daily calories. Fat intake should be between 60-65% with less than 5% from carbs. For a person who is eating between 2400-2700 cal/day this would translate into no more than 30 grams of carbs per day. Again remember, it is important that the carbs be spread throughout the day to not bring you out of your ketogenic state. I also recommend that you check the Ketostixs at least twice a day once they show that you are in ketosis. This will allow you to do some damage control by eating almost all of your calories from fat if you've made a mistake and start to come out of ketosis. On Saturday or Sunday, you will be ready to begin the fun part of the diet, the carb up! In order to achieve the best results, you need to deplete the muscles of glycogen with a full body circuit workout on Friday in order to prep them for maximum carb absorption on the weekend. This means that you have to do a few sets of exercises for all of your muscle groups in one exhaustive workout. Use lightweights and high repetitions on all exercises with as much intensity as you can muster. I recommend using compound exercise movements that involve the most muscle groups in an effort to fatigue all of your muscles in the shortest amount of time. Exercises such as squats, incline bench presses, front barbell shoulder presses, and front machine pulldowns will take care of all the big muscle groups while incorporating smaller muscle groups as well. Throw in 1-2 sets of bicep curls, tricep pushdowns, and calf raises and your total body workout is completed. On Saturday and Sunday eat 10-15% above your (AMR) active maintenance number of calories broken down as follows: high carb (60%), low fat (15-20%), medium protein (20-25%). This will again cause an insulin spike as it did at the beginning of your diet week. The spike of insulin drives the carbohydrates into your depleted muscles, which has an anabolic effect. You will need to eat often, every 2-2 1/2 hours. Bodybuilding guru Dan Duchaine even recommends waking-up during the night to eat. Remember, that for these two days you will no longer be in the ketogenic state that uses fat as the body's primary fuel. Now is the time to cut back and eat no more than 20% of your calories from fat. The first day of the weekend carb meals should contain foods with the highest glycemic index in order to cause the greatest possible insulin spike. The rate at which food raises blood glucose is called its glycemic index. Some foods with a high glycemic index are instant rice, baked potatoes, carrots, graham crackers, rice cakes, bagels, watermelon, and pineapple. You can eat high glycemic foods like bowls of sugary breakfast cereals with skim milk or waffles with maple syrup. Eating these foods will cause a rush of carbohydrates that will be forced directly into your muscle cells. Since added fat will slow down this insulin response and negatively effect the carb up, it would be wise to limit your intake of meats and cheeses during the first day. You can increase your protein intake by using a protein supplement like a soy or whey protein and eating foods like tuna or chicken breasts. Click here for a comprehensive glycemic index guide for various foods. NOTE: On Sunday evening be sure to switch back to the high fat / low carb mode after your last high carb meal (from 6-8PM). These are the basics of a ketogenic diet. The most important thing you should remember is that your body needs to make the metabolic shift necessary to convert fatty acids into ketones which it will then burn for energy-without the shift the diet will not work. As a dieter, you will be able to drive your body into ketosis by following the diet procedures outlined above. Though definitely effective the diet process outlined above takes you into ketosis in anywhere from 48 to 72 hours. That means your body is using stored fatty acids as fuel for only 48 to 72 hours before you begin the weekend carb-up stage of the diet. ------------------  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 534 |
definitely need more info from the rest of you to change her mind--please!!!!!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 63 |
Personally, I do not care what women have to do to look good. However, since this girl is close to you, I would have her talk to her doctor. Maybe he will tell her what she is doing to her self. ------------------ |
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posted September 21, 2000 12:38 PM
