Unfortunately coming from Northern Ireland that is one of the only ways I can get advice is from books and the net, as there are really no experts on bodybuilding over here. To make things even worse, anyone even suspected of dealing in drugs over here witout the concent of the terrorists usually ends up with a bullet in the back of their head.

Ok then, who would you think would be the best people to give advice on steroids and competition bodybuilding?

Someone who has been there before maybe, like a pro or ex-pro. I tried just that, asking around for advice, but most of my questions where met with denial and bullshit.

So now I'm feeling a bit pissed off and am going to blow of some steam.

If you have the money and you can find them maybe you can hire the A-Team. These are the guy's who really know what is been used in top international bodybuilding and they are who the Pro's turn to for advice.

Charles Glass
Chad Nicholls
Scott Abel
Gary Strydom

While here you have to be increadle careful who you talk to in the gym about steroids or drugs, because you don't know what organisation the person you talk to could be in.
In other words I don't want my knees caps blown out the front of my legs by a semi automatic pistol.

If so, then I am sorry to hear about that bro. People tend to forget that there are parts of the world where information is scarce and hard to come by. Perhaps, what you could try is to structure your questions in such a way that it won't attract flames. For instance, you could preface your questions with a explanation of why you are asking. This will allow your readers to know and see that the information that you seek may be basic, but difficult for you to find.

Hope this helps you bro. And thanx for the post. It certainly opened my eyes a little and reminded me that there are things I take for granted.

When I say Pro's I mean Pro bodybuilders, some have given me little bits of advice where as others have got the angry head with me.

My point is that most of the Pro's that you see at the Olyimpia would like you to believe that they did it all by themselves with no help from anyone. That is total and utter bullshit, they have all been advised by someone who has at least competed in a top bodybuilding event themselves.

I have read some of Paul's columns and I think he knows a lot of stuff.

Why else would so many Pro's be trying to blacken his name and call him crazy. Maybe because he is not afraid to tell the truth and that is something most pro's do not like hearing, that most of their muscle is as much, if not more of a result of huge amounts of steroids than actual genetics and hard work.

One pro I talked to confirmed that all the pro's are taking 1000's of mg's of testosterone per week and I didn't even have to pay them to tell me that.

I am not experienced so this is all I have to offer.

Do any of them have a guilty consience, when they see their face in a magazine advertising some bullshit supplement that costs as much as a months supply of steroids. Usually saying things like yes I gained 20 lb's of pure muscle to win the Nationals using mega fat gain 6,000,000.

Great work if you can find it, getting payed to lie.

That is true for American Bodybuilders, but not for British or Irish Bodybuilders as it is legal to possess steroids here for your own personal use, but illegal to supply.

Believe it or not, but the one Pro who told me more than any of the rest was actually an American.

What I was trying to say is that most of the pro's you see competing were created, they didn't just work things out by themselves.

It's like an exclusive club, if you don't have the money or are not a friend of a friend then you don't get in.

The drug secrets of the pro's have been passed down from one set of pro's and their personal trainers to the next.

Fenian You are right this is how a lot of them make their money and they know that if everyone knew these secrets then they would be out of a job.

We on this board can only speculate what they are really doing.