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 Why have the board members always told us young ones to stay away from testosterone?
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| Author | Topic: Why have the board members always told us young ones to stay away from testosterone? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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I ask this question because u guys always tell us young ones to stay away from testosterone. But if almost every other steroid, (like decca or winstrol) will shut down natural test also, then what is the difference? Why do u all recomend staying away from test as a steroid?     | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 46 |
i guess bececause test can affect your growth moere then the others cause test is a hormone  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 63 |
your gonna start another mod war with this one!! ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 414 |
Just testosterone stunts your growth? Why not the others burn boy? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 414 |
Mods lets go.......I want to hear some good explanation on why testosterone in particular is not the drug of choice with us young guys. (i know that we shouldn't be using any drugs though.,heheehh but still...) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 414 |
bump........mods, experienced bb's, i need to know because i am doing a decca winny cycle and really didn't want to throw in test because of it's bad rep for young beginers. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 923 |
How young? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 475 |
Well, although I am not a mod, a few things come to mind. First of all your test levels are still well above that of an older lifter so why add more. I suggest most younger lifters to wait till at least after 21 although 25 is when you are considered to be finished growing. When they won't wait I do suggest mild anabolics with less androgenic sides like EQ, winny and primo. I know too many guys who looked like a walking zit with breasts from just a little test(10cc's) before age 21. Although all gear of any kind has the ability to interupt natural growth patterns, I would have to believe that test being the chief of all hormones would screw up more. It did with me. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 923 |
P n'I, Not all gear. Oxandrolone is FDA approved for children. How young? | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 8 |
I don't know if any of you know me but I am a mod at the rocks board... Anyway i disagree. I started using at age 14 and always used Test. If you start young then test is the way to go. The reason for this is that test has a 1-1 anabolic/androgenic ratio. That is the ratio you body is use to. If you start to use Deca at a young age you will screw up the natural order of things and Your male secondary sexual charecteristics like hair and a big cock will be stunted. Using test will just speed that process up. I assure you that more then just my muscles grew when I took test as a kid. I was lucky tho because at 16 I was 6ft already so I wasnt worried about hight. It doesnt make sence to reduce the androgens in a youngin. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 923 |
Hello Q
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 325 |
i don't buy this test stunts growth shit either. its just i'm havin acne problems now...if i hit the test fuck no way. if my deca/winny cycles go well im gonna go with anadrol/winny or anadrol/winny/dbol possibly but that will be tough on the liver. anyway i think its the estrogen that stunts growth. meaning you gotta be careful and take your anti-estro [This message has been edited by d1734 (edited September 20, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 923 |
You know a real MJ fan would give up his age. ...................................................I figured as much.. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 81 |
If you haven't finished growing yet, then A.S can cause your epiphyseal plates (the part of the bone where growth origniates) to seal over. This happens naturally when you stop growing, but A.S can cause this to happen prematurely. I don't know if test is any worse than other steroids but you run the risk with all steroids of this happening. ------------------ "Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death." | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 923 |
Curious, This guy don't like me so please stay with this because there is already bad info on this thread.. as you've seen. BTW Ox doesn't close your epiphyseal plates. FYI | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 2465 |
who ever said that young people shouldn't use testosterone??? THEY SHOULDN'T USE STEROIDS PERIOD!!!! There is no alright steroid to take, well maybe anavar, but other than that you shouldn't take anything until you're at least 21. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 267 |
Most young people are already producing enough testosterone, so why add something you really don't need. Reach your natural potential first before you jump on roids | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 923 |
Thank you | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 414 |
Ulter , I am sorry . I posted and then went out to eat. Couldn't keep up. You are gettin to be quite a character. I am 19 just turned 19 and did a sustanon 250 cycle 6 months ago already. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 923 |
I just have to know one thing. You were 18, you came to this board, and someone here told you to start a sust 250 cycle? Or you made this decision on your own? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 414 |
e2 I know, I shouldnt have started so young. I didn't reach my potential yet but i have to say i wouldn't trade doing it. If anything, the cycle got me bigger than i wanted to be!!! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 387 |
Bigger than you wanted to be is that possible!? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 414 |
Ulter, i came right here at this very board and almost EVERYONE said to sustanon 250 was a great beginers steroid. They said " do the sus at at least 500 to blast those receptors." Trust me bro i researched and researched and i came to a conclusion. That every steroid has an effect on nat test levels, so why not do possibly the best one. If i would have just researched a little more i would have through deca and winstrol in with the sus! but i though of stacking at that time to be only for the juice junkies....stupid me.  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 414 |
Consultant, yes it is. I am actually shrinking parts of my body now to porportion myself because i have put on so much size in the last 2 years between natural and unatural lifting. I am happy at the size i am at.....and i am 19. Not a lot of people can say that at this age. Now it's just cut up time for the rest of my life. I don't like the huge look. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 414 |
ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THE ISSUE? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 589 |
italian, yes. i would like to know your stats,and how many cycles you have done? I am just turned 18 yes, i know everyone says too young, too young, but i am looking to do a couple short cycles just for before next summer. 5 weeks ... 2 weeks of d-bol, 3 of winny, then 3 weeks off then do it again. So i am wonderin if you got any info for us young bros on hear. thanx kram-mark | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 367 |
The problem I see with test is that the body will have no problem recognizing what it is, and immediately trying to compensate for it (aromatization to estrogen, to DHT, etc...) Also the body will conpensate for it much faster than milder roids, and then you need higher dosages just to keep growing. If you have access to the necessary drugs to counteract sides, then you're fine, but not everyone does... ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 461 |
Thank you, E2! Also, burnboy, PumpnIrn, CuriousII, Buff221, and FutureOne! BTW, how tall are you young brothers? You can get big at any age, but you only got one go around at getting tall. Think about it. Bjaarki | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1082 |
Well, here are the reasons I came across when considering my cycle. 1. can stunt growth I am now in week 7 of my first cycle. i only have one week left. I think everybody says to stay away from steroids for a while because out of experience these guys have had their best gains at our age. But it's cool, that if we do decide to do a cycle, atleast the guys have helped us out, so we do it right. I made sure to have plenty of clomid and nolvadex as well as milk thistle etc. Good Luck italian sweetness, and all you other 18 year old bros. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 923 |
Sorry it was my turn to go eat. Now that I have read that you got your advise here. I may have to go waste a $20 swordfish steak. You researched what? Did you tell anyone you were 18? Yeah you researched how to hit those receptors on your first cycle BFD. Did you research what the consequences would be of doing this cycle before your natural body finished growing? NO because if you did you wouldn't have done it. You are an intellegent guy who I'm guessing wouldn't have made the decision to go ahead if you knew all the facts. You see that post up there that says E2 on it? You think he doesn't know what he's talking about? If you would have taken the time to ask him (or any other mod) back in March when you were on this board if he thought you should do this what do you think he would have said? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
I'm sorry, did he say 14? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
I tell young kids to stay away from gear period because I don't think most of you have the interest and or money to complete a good cycle. I won't get into the training and the prep aspects. Bottom line, if you're going to do a cycle and have the means to do it right, ie....meals....post cycle drugs...etc, then there's no reason not to use test. I'll temper that by saying that if you are a serious BB and are not just considering gear as a method of picking up chicks, you've probably put enough fore thought into knowing the right and wrong ways to use your product. I see no real difference between using deca vrs. test or even dbol vrs. test, each will have an effect on your natural test levels...and maybe the other stories that have been told. BPP | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 30 |
About what d1734 said: test is responsible for the closing of the plates in young men. And the opposite of what you said is true- estrogen plays a major role in height growth. Surges of natural GH, estrogen, and androgens cause the upward growth in kids. Ver rarely, but it's happened before, kids were given test and they actually grew taller. The only reason this happened was because they already made a lot of GH and estrogen. I know some kid that had a major growth spurt, and he got gyno! naturally, with no roids. It's the extra estrogen floating around that caused it. I read a lot of shit about this in medical journals because it always was interesting to me. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 312 |
My personal opinion is that steroids are not necessary at all until age 21 because you will make gains naturally at an incredible pace anyway until you hit 21, then you start to hit a wall....but before that roids are a waste of money and time because you're going to grow alot without them. I laugh when I see 19 year old guys asking if it stunts growth...come on guys, I think by 14-17 just about everyone is done growing taller save a few exceptions. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 325 |
well jhater, thats the exact opposite of what i've read. if my memory serves me, it was either brock strasser or bill roberts that said arimidex could possibly increase height because it is an aromatase inhibitor. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 414 |
First off fellas, I was 6'0 before i started the cycle. I had NO HEIGHT PROBLEMS TO WORRY ABOUT. I asked ALL THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD ABOUT WHAT I SHOULD DO FOR MY FIRST CYCLE. 90% SAID SUSTANON250 . I SAID I WAS 18! I will tell you though that one guy told me that he wouldn't give me any advise because i was to young to be taking steroids. That guy was E2. I respect his knowledge and concern but everyone is different. I was 18 but a mature 18 who knew what he was doing. Ulter,Yes i picked sustanon because the majority of people said this would be a great start. but if anybody on the board actually gave me a hard cold factual statement on how one shouldn't use testosterone at the age of 18 then i would have picked a better drug of choice. [This message has been edited by ItalianSweetness (edited September 20, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 414 |
To all the young newbies and bjaarki. #1 - Research Research Research #2Make sure u have the concept down of eating right, sleeping, and lifting right. If u havn't mastered these habits then don't do the steroids because it is not worth it!!!(thats the big one) #3Make sure you know that u really want to do it at that young of an age......if u are ready then fuk everyone and get big now! #4In my opinion , don't be afraid of testosterone, it blew me the fuk up (to big)! #5Don't be afraid to STACK!!!!!!!!! [This message has been edited by ItalianSweetness (edited September 20, 2000).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 31 |
Really you should wait until your early to mid 20's but hell live, learn, die and forget it all! Train Hard or Wear a Skirt! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
Well im only 19 and i plan to start a sust/ref cycle next week i have my clomid for pot cycle and all my supps to help me keep as much as possible ...im not just some punk whos using it to pick up chicks!! i want to compete!! Almost everyone on the board told me the same thing about the sust, so i got your back on that one sweetness! Email if you want to swap spme details! Tulk311 | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 248 |
Q, It's good to see you over here. I've been a member of the Rock's board for a while and your gear of the week posts are awesome. WELCOME | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 923 |
Well ItalianSweetness I have no answer for that. If you came here and asked the smartest guy on the board if you should do your cycle and he told you no and you did it anyway then why did you bother asking him? I quit. Good luck. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 414 |
So i guess the jury is undecided about the topic huh? |
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posted September 20, 2000 05:36 PM
