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back2basics

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:Amsterdam
Registered: Aug 2000

posted September 20, 2000 04:11 PM

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The other day I was working out my legs with deepsquats. A trainer came to me an said I was about the last person in the world did this. Parallel is the max. depth or I will injure my knees. His theory: while performing deepsquats you'll put a more pressure on your knee than with the parallel. Altough his theory sounds logical to me, I really doubt it; while performing the parallel squat I've noticed kneepain and NOT with the deepsquats. What is your opinion on this?? Is the trainer right?? B2B.


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chesty

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:Phx, AZ USA!
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posted September 20, 2000 04:18 PM

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Never do parallel, put your ass on the ground every time. You actually put more stress on the knee at parallel than you do in a full squat.

1. You have a longer moment arm from the weight to the knee

2. Muscles are very elastic and are like composite fibers in that they can only sustain a tension load.

So, when you are at 90, you cannot effectively support the weight without overloading the knee joint, by causing it to bind.

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Tronco

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posted September 20, 2000 04:18 PM

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There was some discussion of this a while back and one of the bro raised the isssue that the stresses incurred by your knee are greatest at the top of the movement, null at the 90 degree point and begin to build again as you go deeper. So in my opinion, doing full squats [ATF] is the best route b/c although you may subject your knees to more phases of stress per workout, overall it is a lesser amount of stress b/c your arent doing as much weight [ie more stress] than the douche bags tossing 600 lbs on the bar with no range of motion at all. If you ass isnt crushing ants, you aint squatting.


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E2

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posted September 20, 2000 04:26 PM

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Tronco whoever said that the knee has zero load at the 90 degree point is a complete fool with absolutetly no understanding of dynamics/mechanics.

Chesty is copletely right on this one, and how could he not?? after all he's a fellow engineer.


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HelmsmaN

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From:A squatt rack somewhere in San Diego
Registered: Jul 2000

posted September 20, 2000 04:59 PM

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Hey guys, I don't like to get too involved with training styles, because everyone is different. However, when I was resesarching, and learning the art of powerlifting, I discovered Fred Hatfield, or Dr. Squatt. Hatfield isn�t called �Dr. Squat� for nothing. In 1987, after 30 years of squatting, he performed a competitive squat of 1014 pounds.

here a is link to a great article about knees, and squatting
http://www.drsquat.com/articles/knee.htm


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