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Julez

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posted September 20, 2000 07:14 AM

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I last did a cycle abput 3 years ago. It was Sus. @ 500mg and Deca 400mg per week for 8 weeks.

I was thinking about throughing in some Dbol. Does anyone know if my receptors would have returned to anywhere near normal. How much Dbol should I throw in. Should I use more Deca and Sus.

And lastly any good recommendations on what I should 'come down' on (ie. Nolva. HCG.) etc. I think that ideas on this have changed a bit since I did my last cycle.

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YAKUZA

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posted September 20, 2000 07:23 AM

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If you've been off for three years, your receptors are as good as new. I'd throw in the dbol for the first four weeks, and use clomid to come off and get your nuts working again.


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strengthmonster

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posted September 20, 2000 08:09 AM

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Yep I'd agree. After three years they'll be totally clear provided you've been totally clean. Hit 'em hard.


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The_Punisher

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posted September 20, 2000 09:10 AM

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I would throw the d_bol in for 4-5 weeks and start high like 35 or 40mg and drop dosage as the weeks go by, it will make you hold a little water but you will get strength gains and it will make you feel better, plus you get to see gains right away, your receptors should be clean.


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Julez

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posted September 20, 2000 09:45 AM

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Cheers fellas,

I'm really looking forward to this cycle now... another 10 Kilos. excellent.

When I did the last cycle the consensus was to do about 3 amps of HCG a week. I'm not sure how much Nolvadex etc to use... things seem to have got more complicated since then.

Any ideas?

Julez


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Retabolil2

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posted September 20, 2000 09:45 AM

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You should add dbol even in your orange juice bro Just kidding. It`s real good idea to stack dbol/sust/deca. Go for it!


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Julez

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posted September 20, 2000 09:56 AM

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No, I'll inject it into my knee cap in a cream cheese suspension!!!

I excpect to make great gains!


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The_Punisher

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posted September 20, 2000 10:18 AM

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You could add clomid throughout the cycle EOD or at the end for three weeks 100mg wk 1 and last 2 weeks at 50mg, get some nlv before you cycle just in case.


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Julez

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posted September 20, 2000 10:21 AM

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EOD... sorry to sound thick, I know I've been off of this board for a while. Does this mean end of day?

Yep, maybe I do deserve mt Novice badge.. !!

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XXXL

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posted September 20, 2000 11:44 AM

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take your d-bol .5mg every 4 hours. i know it's a pain in the ass waking up nights but it's worth it. just set them on your night stand. do this for about 4-5 weeks.

i'd keep the sus at 500 per week, but hit 750 for the fist week. this will hit those clean receptors of yours hard.

only take clomid through out your cycle, save the nov for if you need it only.


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Julez

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posted September 20, 2000 11:50 AM

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Cheers,

Not too much of a problem waking up at night. I do it almost every 4 hours to eat.

(Guess that's why I don't hold down relationships for to long...)

I can get holf of Thai DBol do you guys rate this?

Thanks for for your help.

(I was wondering about EOD, I thought it may also have meant 'Every other Day'!)

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THESAINT

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posted September 20, 2000 11:58 AM

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Julez, EOD= EVERY OTHER DAY Throw the d-bol
in 750mgs/week sust 400mgs/week deca 30mgs/day d-bol. Taper down take clomid eod.
throughout cycle.


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M1KAI

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posted September 20, 2000 12:04 PM

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Bro,

Ok I believe the cycle with the d'bol would look somthing like this:


========D'bol======Sust======Deca======Clomid
Week1---49mg 7day--500mg-----400mg------
Week2---42mg 6day--500mg-----400mg------
Week3---35mg 5day--500mg-----400mg------
Week4---28mg 4day--500mg-----400mg------
Week5--------------500mg-----400mg------
Week6--------------500mg-----400mg------
Week7--------------500mg-----300mg------
Week8--------------500mg-----200mg------50mg EOD
Week9-----------------------------------100mg EOD
Week10----------------------------------50mg EOD
Week11----------------------------------50mg EOD

Most people use clomid at the end of the cycle but i use dureing as i start getting gyno symptoms in the first two weeks so i use the clomid to keep it away but if that fails then out comes the novladex so keep that on hand if you can.

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buff221

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posted September 20, 2000 12:59 PM

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Dbol for 6 weeks at 35,35,35,35,30,25
sustanon for 8 weeks at 750,750,750,750,750,750,500,500
Deca for 8 weeks at 400,400,400,400,400,400,300,200


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Bjaarki

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posted September 20, 2000 03:34 PM

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Julez:

You should check your blood pressure before starting dianabol. You'll already be holding a lot of excess fluid from the other drugs, and dbol will really make your BP surge. If you're an older guy, you might want to skip it.

I've read a lot of the bros who really wonder whether dbol adds that much to a test/deca stack other than fluid, which you lose pretty quickly anyway when you come off your cycle. I know that sust/deca/dbol is a common stack, but my sense is that the group consensus on this might be changing. Seems like a lot of guys use it just so they feel they're getting somewhere at the beginning of their cycle when they're waiting for the sust to kick in, but seems to me that if you keep your ego under control, you could get through that period and wait for the real gains to start setting in around week 4 or so.

BTW, just to lay all my cards on the table, I've never used gear (yet), but I've been around for awhile, and I think some of the vets would back me up. I just wanted to add this observation to the mix, since everyone else on this thread is telling you to go ahead on.

Bjaarki

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