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MERLYN

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From:New York, NY USA
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posted September 19, 2000 12:12 PM

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Sorry to bore you with the intro but I'm sure it matters. 5'10 184 lb 7% body fat 23 years old. Need help with first cycle from vets. Desire 20-25 lbs, and would like to harden to 5% body fat. Skin breakout a concernable side effect I'd like to avoid. Decent genetics but I've been stuck on a plateau. Hard worker in the gym and knowledgable on nutrition. Any help or advice appreciated greatly.


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XXXL

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From:Detroit
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posted September 19, 2000 12:25 PM

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well you won't put on 20-25lbs and cut to 5%bf. so you need to pick one or the other. summer is over so i would think you'll prbly want to go with a bulking cycle.

you will get lots of opinions on this. since you want 20-25 lbs (which is a lot even for a first cycle) you'll prbly want to go heavier than most. i'd go with dbol 30mgs per day, and sus 250 at 750mgs for week one and then 500mgs for weeks 2-8/10. then maybe throw something in to help you keep your gains. some love clomid and it has other uses, but i like to use tren to keep my gains.

do some homework and see what you think is best for you. then put your own cycle together and we will then be of more help.


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MERLYN

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posted September 19, 2000 12:58 PM

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Maybe 20-25 lbs is too aggressive a figure. I would be happy with 15 lbs if it was keepable. Do I need to be more concerned with side effects if I take higher doses? How about the advantages/disadvantages of a shorter 6 week cycle?


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FtLauderdale

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From:The Sunshine State
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posted September 19, 2000 01:19 PM

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You may be able to get 20-25 lbs, but some of it may be water or fat & unless you take clomid in the last weeks of your cycle & in the 2-3 weeks after your cycle you will lose a good deal of what you picked up. Do a search in the archives of previous messages & you'll find loads of info on stacks others have done/recommend. As far as what to take, I'm partial to deca stacked with sustanon/omnadren & in your case to get a little extra weight, maybe some dbol. CLOMID IS THE KEY TO KEEPING THE GAINS. Just my 2 cents.


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