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Consultant

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posted September 19, 2000 11:33 AM

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For the record god help ya when The Saint find ya. Anyone else had a problem with him recently?


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ajc

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posted September 19, 2000 11:38 AM

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This kind of post doesn't belong on this board. Period.

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Diver

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posted September 19, 2000 11:43 AM

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ajc i disagree, although i dont know the details of what hapened over at their board, if someone is fucking people over everyone should know about it. as long as consultant can back it up with facts

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E2

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posted September 19, 2000 11:48 AM

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Yes i dont' mind this post because we should all know he's a scamming whore. Used to be good, but now has gone south, like so many sources. Do not deal with him at all!!

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ajc

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posted September 19, 2000 11:56 AM

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This is something to email a mod about...This is openly posting about a source by name. If he's sure that he was scammed, then tell us...but don't ask out in the open...This puts the source and the buyer at risk.

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ajc

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posted September 19, 2000 12:00 PM

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Well I guess E2 cleared that shit up in a hurry


I just like to be on the safe side with that kind of a post.


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Slopain01

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posted September 19, 2000 12:02 PM

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Yep there is no problem with this one, I have not seen one person in the past few weeks not say hes a scam. I dont know how these sources think they can get away with it when they are known by some people and the stakes are as high as they were, people are NOT going to say "oh well I lost a big chunk on $ there" (and Im not talking a few g's) That amount of money people tend to be persistent to bring closure to the situation.

It seems b/c alot of the times, no one heres about the closure (do to fear of getting caught if anything illegal took place or any type of revenge) so then the other would be scammers think they got off with no repercussions.

just a little rant about a topic that pisses me off..

bump

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Consultant

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posted September 19, 2000 12:13 PM

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Thanks for the back up guys!.


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posted September 19, 2000 12:22 PM

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I was just saying that it would be wise to check with a mod before we mention a source by name. But if he's a scammer, let him hang.


I agree with Slopain 100% -this fucker should be dealt with. I've seen similar situations years ago in the drug game, and unless this guy has some serious backing, he will be looking over his shoulder for a long time.

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Slopain01

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posted September 19, 2000 12:26 PM

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ne of the reasons I like elite is we are more cautious (except for some of the newbies god bless em) when it comes to posting scammers, his name has been thrown around on the other boards for some time now all the while building consensus with people saying they havent heard from him in weeks/months.

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Consultant

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posted September 19, 2000 12:27 PM

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The Saint is a good friend of mine and I will hang my neck out for him. (I know he is always standing behind me) No harm I understand your point. And I did post this after alot of thought.

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ajc

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posted September 19, 2000 12:31 PM

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Consultant...That was not intended to be a flame at all bro, but without knowing for sure about Masster, I was hoping you'd edit your post and email a mod...But, E2 stepped in and verified it.

Since this guy is so popular, let's keep this at the top today so everyone knows about this. You should also go to the scammer list and report him.

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Consultant

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posted September 19, 2000 12:34 PM

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I agree And thanks again for the backing (E2) and others


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Slopain01

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posted September 19, 2000 12:35 PM

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Im sure hes already been reported by about 50 people, and will be featured on a scamming list near you soon. heheh

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posted September 19, 2000 01:05 PM

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This is news to me and I'm on here almost every day....So bump.


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FOZY

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posted September 19, 2000 01:14 PM

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he got me.....I should have known somthing was up when he gave me such a good deal on some omna....


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posted September 19, 2000 01:30 PM

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fuck scammers!

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Consultant

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posted September 19, 2000 05:05 PM

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Keepin it at the top!


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posted September 19, 2000 05:19 PM

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They have been calling him out as a scammer for a few weeks at renegade, but I always take what I here over there with a grain of salt as sometimes the gun gets jumped pretty quick,(no flame intended, I love all the RR'n on that board,LOL) but now that I see it here you know there's a serious problem. Knew some that delt with masster in the past and were happy, but he almost seemed too cheap to me, ya know, like too good to be true.


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THESAINT

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posted September 19, 2000 05:29 PM

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Thanks Consultant, If anyone can shed some light on where this guy can be located please e-mail me.


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posted September 19, 2000 06:52 PM

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He was one of my great source,but I don't know why a good source always become soon or later a scammer.

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Shaqdiesel

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Sup guys,

I know this is a very touchy subject (scammers, loss of hard earned money, etc.) but here is my two cents on the deal. I too am waiting on Master, but hear me out before anybody screams or yells scammer and ruins his name. Yes I totally agree with everybody that he is late. He has a lot of people's cash and people are getting pissed and impatient with him. You get no argument here.

However, lets keep a little faith in the guy. I have heard from some "associates" of his via email and message boards that he does intend to send all who ordered. here's the catch, those who spent the least (200-500 dollars) will get their shipment first. Why? The logic given to me is that the "BIG BOYS" have plenty of money and can wait, while us less than fortunate gym heads can't afford to miss out on a few hundred bucks. Thats like comparing us to losing ten thousand bucks (probably destroy most of us) and Bill gates losing ten thousand bucks (he'd say "fuck," then go on with life without ever thinking about it again). So the moral of this story is have a little faith in people. Trashing Masster on all these message boards might come back to bite you in the ass and he just may not send your gear just to spite the doubters and shit talkers. Know what I'm saying? I'm sure he still has access to the internet and checks the web sites to see who's complaining and what they are saying about him. I sure as hell would be.

Now I know I will get flamed for playing devil's advocate but seriously, also think about this. Anytime you venture into illegal things, you have to realize it might not go as planned. What if he got busted? Wouldnt you feel bad? Better him than you right? I think sometimes we forget and take for granted that dealers stick their neck out on the line for many of us by dealing with us over the internet. How does he know we arent cops or what not?

So the moral of this post is just chill out, be patient and if your gear comes it comes, if not, well move on. I know its rough on the bank account, but there's no need to be banging your head into the wall constantly or trashing somebody over it--it wont help anything.

Peace,

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posted September 19, 2000 08:14 PM

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Honestly, not trying to be funny, but I think nobody gives a shit what could have happened when he's got their money and they have nothing.

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posted September 19, 2000 08:22 PM

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Bump To the Top!! I would be raging pissed if he had my cash!

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posted September 19, 2000 09:41 PM

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I hear something similar to what shaq says, so I am still holding out hope. From what I hear he was a good source before everything happened, so he may have legal problems, who knows.


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posted September 19, 2000 09:51 PM

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Bump this


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posted September 19, 2000 09:51 PM

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Bump this one again....He was a good source at one time but all he was doing was creating trust for guys to go for big orders. He came through on alot of small orders for some but has become an ass-lick'n scammer now.


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Well talking from experience it took about 7 weeks, after at least 8 messages saying "its going out tomorrow". But that was a few months ago, and I saw the writing on the wall. Of course to get my money, he claimed it would be a "3 day turn around", then he ignored my e-mails all together for weeks until I got a mod involved. To those still waiting I wish you luck. To those thinking of ordering, DONT!!!! Even if the stories of personal troubles, etc., are true your going to the back of the line because he seems to be using new money to fill old orders.


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posted September 19, 2000 09:56 PM

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There are a lot of bad rumors floating around the other boards as well. I know he used to be legit though.


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posted September 19, 2000 10:34 PM

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He said he was a domestic source so he must have gotten busted or something.


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posted September 19, 2000 11:16 PM

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Masster said that he thought that he was going to be busted and that he was "laying low". Actually he was buying more time to scam. He owes a lot of money to people.


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They have been calling him out as a scammer for a few weeks at renegade

Strange isn't it, how just a few months ago, he was a big board approved source over at renegade???? It's interesting to me to consistently see these board approved souces over at renegade turn scammer and run off with thousands and thousands of dollars. Now i'm not pointing fingers, but either someone is getting rich, or they have very poor judgement in who they back.

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I recieved from him took 2 fucken long months and about a hundred emails but I finally recieved I would never place an order with him again.


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THESAINT

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posted September 20, 2000 11:37 AM

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Bros, Lets check some ips. These guys might be the same guys, just change their addy and go on getting rich.


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Slopain01

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I could see where a mod who backes these guys could get a cut of a scam, some of these guys scam for well over 50g's 10-20% of that aint chump change. IM NOT SAYING ANY OF THE OTHER BOARDS MODS ARE DOING THIS, but the motive is their for them to back certain people.

As for the devils advocate, I really dont think hed send to the little guys first on the count of his feelings for them, wake up your getting scammed. A source WILL ALWAYS take care of the big boys first b/c thats were the majority of their business comes from, Thats where the money is, and those are the people you dont want looking for you. Im not flaming you bro just introducing the cold reality here.

As for watching what you say about him or he may not send, FUCK MASTER. Any source worth his weight in t200 (the brovel) will never discriminate on what you have said about him (especially after ignoring all the emails for weeks), you may be pissed as hell at someone but if you take their money you send the package, then if the source is still mad about soemthing you said about him he will tell them youll never work with them again.

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posted September 20, 2000 12:32 PM

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Damn Slopain01, you sure seem to know a lot for a newbie.

J/K bro...good post

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Comig up I got scamed by an "Approved Source"
that had the backing of the Renegade board mods. (every body remenbers "Top Dogg")

The mods over at renegade would allow him to post openly,
However when I tried to post him as being a scamer my post never made it to the board, they even refered to me as a "Trouble Maker"

Well its good to know where to go now a days I never get scamed or wait more than 2 weeks for my shit.


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I am glad I did not order anything from him, I was just about to


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It surprises me that these huge (openly posting) domestics do not get busted. They must be doing something right or just staying in the biz long enough to make money, scam the last few months and disappear. Then they re-appear as another source.

It is part of the game. So, the moral of the story is "Do Not Send More Money Than You Are Willing To Lose!!!"

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I agree with 2Thick. Just about two weeks ago, another bro here emailed me, asking my opinion of Masster. I told him that Masster is way too high profile for my taste, but that it was only my opinion, not based on actual experience with Masster. I guess my gut feeling was somewhat right.

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I was almost a victim myself to invisible camping gear he peddled!


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Ajc I agree 100% The best sources I have ever had were guys moving small amounts. Always in contact w/ya and dont e-mail hundreds of people!


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This guy's so popular, we need to keep this at the top for a while. Bump


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Slopain and 2Thick are right. As Slopain says the big boys will come looking for you.
I will hunt this fucker and the only thing that will stop me is if I get my hunting gear. 2Thick, I feel the same way. These scammers are probably popping up under new
names. Any brothers that can track these icqs
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He used to be legit but we must remember that legit guys can go bad any day so
for instance when you get a source recommended to you take it at face value. you cant trust anyone completely so when you deal with a source as i do never make huge purchases just in case they have gone bad

as for posting of source names
once a source goes bad he is not a source
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posted September 20, 2000 08:38 PM

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Saints are not supposed to taste blood!


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Funny, Now another "reputable"and popular domestic source
just posted and said he is having problems.Hmmmm to bad he's got my $$$


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THESAINT

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posted September 21, 2000 02:36 PM

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BPP or any bros, any help tracking this guy will be appreciated.


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back2basics

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posted September 21, 2000 02:56 PM

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I normally don't bump posts. But for a scammer I'll gladly make an exeption;
BUMP!!


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Slopain01

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posted September 21, 2000 03:01 PM

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whore


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posted September 21, 2000 03:12 PM

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I don't normally bump either but...Keep this up high.

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posted September 21, 2000 03:17 PM

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bump it up for the Saint


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bitch, damn slope, you got me doin it too
late,

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big dog

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posted September 21, 2000 04:07 PM

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Saint, what city and state did you send the money?

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Bump it!
Just thought I would pass this along for those of you who havent read it. Somethin may be up. Be safe bros.
http://209.213.98.1/forums/Thread.cfm?CFID=902557&CFTOKEN=52508481&CFApp=139&Thread_ID=127653&mc=1


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THESAINT

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posted September 21, 2000 06:03 PM

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Thanks under, obviously this f#$%er is working with the feds now to cover his ass.
I sure hope I find him.


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Luv2Lift

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posted September 21, 2000 06:10 PM

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There's a warning from one of the mods on Renegade that was just posted that says "Do not accept any packages from Masster".
He says he'll post more info tonight.


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ajc

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posted September 21, 2000 07:44 PM

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I've been told that Masster is working with the feds in
reverse sting operations. If you receive a package from
Masster, you may very well get your front door kicked in
and get yourself arrested.

Do not accept packages from Clearwater Florida!
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2Thick

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posted September 21, 2000 07:47 PM

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Well, that is logical. A person that is high profile is going to get busted sooner or later.

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ajc

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posted September 21, 2000 08:16 PM

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2thick I agree. That's what I told that bro that emailed me about Masster just a couple weeks ago. I told him that I have never even talked to him, and I hear about him quite a bit.


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Mickey

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posted September 22, 2000 12:33 AM

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Holy shit!! Thats fucked up.
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