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harmonic

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posted September 18, 2000 10:45 PM

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I currently have been dieting for a show, and of course w/ dieting comes loss in muscle size. It's actually kinda depressing. How likely is it for my muscles "memory" to return to there pre dieting size? I have been doing two 30 in sessions of cardio a day, and have cut calories down to around 1000 a day and I still have about 10lbs to go. I swear my arms have lost about an inch, my legs about 2 inches and my strength is absolutely gone. Anybody else??

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beefmaster

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posted September 18, 2000 10:51 PM

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My muscles keep forgetting where the gym is! Instead of the low cals why not use ctyomel, synthroid, clenbuterol, ECA's and so forth. I'd say it's better to cut the carbs a tad and not starve yourself man. Your killing the efforts of some very hard work.

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harmonic

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posted September 18, 2000 10:56 PM

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I would like to get some clen to help out, but things are pretty dry around here. I used to feel huge, but I have lost about 20lbs (probably mostly water) and I feel scronny. I'm 5'10 202lbs I want to compete at a max weight of 190 but 185 would be sweet. I can't wait to start my next cycle!! But I cannot afford to retain water this close to the show.. And like I said the cutting drugs are really dry around here, so I'm on my own as far a cutting goes.

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harmonic

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posted September 18, 2000 11:40 PM

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anybody else??


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Pup'nIrn

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posted September 19, 2000 09:43 AM

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Yes you will rebound after the diet. I put back 30-35lbs after my contest in one 5 weeks. I do suggest you raise you calories though. You are making a very common mistake. Lowering your calories too low will force a starvation mode in the body. This will cause your body to hang on to bodyfat as a survial technique. It will choose to burn muscle and carbs instead....been there done that and pissed off at the results!....email me if you need help.


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Bjaarki

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posted September 19, 2000 10:54 AM

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Harmonic:

You will quickly regain your lost size after you start bulking up again. There's nothing very mysterious about "muscle memory," in which the term "memory" is only useful as a metaphor.

Most guys don't understand that muscles grow principally by increasing the diameter of the existing fibers. After this process reaches its maximum, muscle fibers begin to develop satellite nuclei and, eventually, new fibers grow.

When you starve down, you shrink the muscle fibers' diameter, but those new daughter cells are still there, though shrunken. Start eating well and hydrating again, and those fibers swell back up, and you're back to where you started, as though your muscles had "memory" for how large they were before you started cutting up.

Hope this helps.

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Curious II

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posted September 19, 2000 11:37 AM

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Most people I know who have competed said not only did they get back what they lost, their strength and size actually surpassed what it was. Reason being is because you are "starving" yourself and your body is dying for some food. When you finally do give it some, it will take and store everything it can get. You'll feel 100% better too.

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mightydog

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posted September 19, 2000 11:52 AM

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So eventually, while you are staying natural, your body will remember what it was doing while on gear and you will be back to where you are naturally as if you were on gear. Is that how it works??


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Curious II

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posted September 19, 2000 12:10 PM

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The question isn't about gear...it's about diet. For all we know he could be all natural.

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slim_shady

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posted September 19, 2000 12:26 PM

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mightydog -
the point is that the potential (through muscle fiber growth/net new growth) to regain the size/strength is there and the return to "baseline" is quicker than raising the bar so to say...once you start providing the body with the necessary nutrition/energy, the body will grow into what is available - i.e. muscle fiber growth.

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harmonic

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posted September 19, 2000 05:50 PM

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Thanks alot for your help guys.


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ALL-NATURAL-JUICE

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posted September 19, 2000 05:59 PM

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thank god for mucle memory or i would be a little bit smaller now. you will gain it all back with some calories and water. eaaat foooood your starving yourself and that is not good ,unhealthy and you will loose too much muscle.


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