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Headhunter

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posted September 19, 2000 02:16 PM

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no tose boys are what put the test there i think some of your are getting this backwards.


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XXXL

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posted September 19, 2000 02:39 PM

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they're just getting their opinions across and having fun too. i don't think anyones pissed off.


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ulter

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posted September 19, 2000 02:53 PM

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HHMMMMMMMMMM I wonder XXXL.

I don't care who's right. I've been putting these 2 drugs TOGETHER for as long as I can remember... over 15 years. They seem to get along just fine in the same syringe and I'm not complaining about my results.


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E2

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posted September 19, 2000 02:55 PM

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Lads don't get me wrong, i love deca use it all the time for my joints, but it will never ever ever be the base for a cycle, it will always be combined with at least twice as much test as deca.

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The Ranger

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posted September 19, 2000 03:01 PM

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I can't agree with E2 on this one...I FUCKING HATE DECA!!!!

It is a great roid, and for most you will be somewhat satisified, it fucks me up even on small dosages...EQ never does!!!

And bro's, we're not mad(sorta) heh heh heh....We just like to argue our hard fought points....Fuck, can you imagine if all of us was at a gym and this topic was started....

Shit, 2Thick would be on the recieving end of some major ass whuppings!!! hahahahahahaha

2Thick has his opinions, even if he's wrong, there is nothing wrong with him voice-ing them....heh heh heh....Oh Yeah, 2Thick, when Ranger wants your opinions of stacks....he'll give it to you!!!!!!!

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Curious II

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posted September 19, 2000 03:03 PM

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Personally, I think Andro is better than both of those drugs. (heh, heh)

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Slopain01

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posted September 19, 2000 03:06 PM

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"2thick has his opinions, Even if hes wrong" hahaha. Cornelius or whatever it was (sorry its on page #1) no one is getting angry at each other, you need to know these peeps, this topic has come up before, its kind of on going, and every once and a while (like now) it gets flamed up a bit, no big problems - just guys arguing in good faith.

THEIR YANKIN EACH OTHERS CHAINS, eh?

Slopain

Im a mixer of deca/test also currently (400deca/1gram test)


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IYONHD

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posted September 19, 2000 03:13 PM

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2thick, Good job on starting the debate, shit how did Ranger lose his teeth? hehe.
, In my opinion retaining gains is really what its all about. Yea its great to feel like superman for several weeks but then what. 50% sounds xtreme though. Why would we spend all the $ and take the legal chances?


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Maverik

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posted September 19, 2000 03:16 PM

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Damn, this thread was brand new yesterday and now it has 82 replies, no make that 83 replies. 2Thick, next time I want to stir up some good controversial topics, I am coming to you!!


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ulter

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posted September 19, 2000 03:25 PM

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I'll go along with that E2. 2:1
Ranger's gyno is genetic as we all know, so his experience with Deca may not be the norm. I do not have this gene in my body so I don't have to worry about it.


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The Ranger

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posted September 19, 2000 04:09 PM

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heh heh heh....ulter, ya fucker....and I got all my teeth but the front 6. Horse kicked them out when I was 16....caps look khule though!!!

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ajc

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posted September 19, 2000 04:22 PM

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Chill bros. This is like comparing apples to oranges. Hey wait... I've got a brilliant idea.

How about we stack Deca with Test?

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Twisted_Steel

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posted September 19, 2000 04:41 PM

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Children gather around the camp fire, because this silly thread needs to be finalized. The intended purpose behind the use of anabolic androgenic steroids is to promote the accelerated hypertrophy of existing muscle.
Its not about who can become the single biggest amorphic muscle bound fat ass in the gym. Its not about how big you look in cloth, its about what you look like without them.
Test makes you grow, intelligent post cycle operations makes you hold!

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ajc

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posted September 19, 2000 04:45 PM

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Damn Ranger, What in God's name were you trying to do to that horse?


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ajc

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posted September 19, 2000 04:46 PM

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Sorry Ranger...I just couldn't resist.


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Ice Man

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posted September 19, 2000 05:05 PM

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Great thread guys. I love this place!

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Bjaarki

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posted September 19, 2000 05:07 PM

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I really love this. Seems like E2 and 2Thick just feel a need to get into these wrangles every few months or so. 2Thick always starts it, then E2 jumps in with both feet. Interesting this time to see Ranger (over the top, IMO) and WCP (measured and thoughtful, much like GymRat) jump in. Where is Macrophage on this one? Also, a nonmod but a vet with an axe to grind here (Decaman) should jump in. Then we should really see the fur fly.

I, for one, get a lot out of these debates. Reminds me of one of my seminars in grad school. Go at it, boys! We're all friends here.

But, what about that point that a couple of the bros have raised, about how, if a guy has done a lot of cycles, and has kept most of the weight he gained, he oughta way about a million pounds by now. Fact is, not many of the bros here are much above 250, if my memory serves.

What about that? Where have all these gains of 10 or 20 pounds or more per cycle, where have they gone to in a 250 pound gearhead with 20 inch arms, if he probably would have weighed in the low 200's with 17 inch arms without gear? If you're keeping most of these gains, either the math doesn't compute, or maybe I'm just missing something.

Just wondering, bros.

Bjaarki


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2Thick

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posted September 19, 2000 05:32 PM

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Twisted Steel,

I like the poem. It is a piece of art.
Bjaarki,

You have brought up a very, very important point about the accumulation of those gains after years of cycling.

Once again, I would like to reiterate that I am speaking about net weight gain (that does not distinguish between water, LBM, or adipose tissue).

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Recoome

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posted September 19, 2000 06:08 PM

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I always read everywhere that Deca is the best anabolic, as far as risk-to-benefit ratio.


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WarLobo

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posted September 19, 2000 06:46 PM

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As the husband of a BBing judge, (yes she is a female) I have NEVER once in all the body building shows I've EVER went to talked to one person that said, "I used deca as my primary roid of choice...." "Deca is what got me to the top of my class..." Would you like to know what IS the roid they use???? Well, it's TEST. Every time, in many combinations to be sure, and in every dose you can imagine. But it's still test folks.

Now I'm not saying deca anit any good, hell, I stack it on every bulking cycle myself. But the facts remain very clear and I'm just passing on some real world info....

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1911

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posted September 19, 2000 06:58 PM

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Man, when is the last time we had a "two page" thread? BTW 2Thick, we all know you throw this shit out to "fire-up" the bruthas' (works every fuckin' time too!)

Later,


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ThePitbull

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posted September 19, 2000 07:26 PM

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Another great debate started by 2Thick!

Now these are the threads that keep us comming back for more. lol

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Bjaarki

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posted September 19, 2000 09:00 PM

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Where the fuck is Decaman? I just put a bullet past his ear telling him to wake up and get in this rumble, he told me he was on the case, and he's still a no show.

Boooooo, Decaman!!!

Bjaarki


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ulter

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posted September 19, 2000 09:07 PM

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It's going to take him an hour to read this thread just to catch up


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Decaman

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Hey now, what is with all the hostility here, it's cool 2thick we Know the deal. And Mr. Ranger always ready to take potshots at deca, DECABASHER! I didn't have the time to read through all this crap, but i can see you two ganging up on 2thick here, and for what, he only speaks the truth. We will not tolerate deca bashing!
Yes i am trying to pick a fight, then we can get down to it. hehe
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DREXX

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posted September 19, 2000 09:14 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by eastarr:
...Test is for power and mass, not for ctting...

JUST WANTED TO SAY BULLSHIT...

TEST IS GREAT FOR CUTTING OR RETAINING MASS WILL ON A CUTTING CYCLE...


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DREXX

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posted September 19, 2000 10:13 PM

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2Thick:

Why didnt you specify in the first post that you will lose 50% of the weight gain and not 50% of the lean body mass.

We are only concerned with LBM not fat and water...

I gained 20lbs and only 13lbs was lbm I know that and I lost 1lbs of LBM 3 weeks later...

I don't care if I lose fat it's the LBM that counts and the fact is you wont lose 50% of the LBM that you gained...


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pds132

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posted September 19, 2000 10:31 PM

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i did an 8 week cycle of test enanthate and i gained about 20 lbs. i kept gaining for about 2 weeks after my cycle but now i'm weak as shit, i can't wait to start my next cycle, i'm gonna try EQ and d-bol, hopefully i can keep some of my gains this time.


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blkLotus

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posted September 19, 2000 11:45 PM

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My god... this is an epic thread if there ever was one.

50%... hmmm... im not so sure about that, but hell, what is 100% sure in this game?

Everyone take this thread for what it is worth. There is not a precise science behind this thing we call GEAR... Take all this information presented and make the judgements for yourselves. You are the one pushing that needle in, not the mods... or anyone else for that matter. If test works for you then by god use it... I have not seen Young1 on in a while but i remeber him saying that Test did nothing for him, only bad sides...

for me i love it... I kept a good amount of my gains. So be it. I can only speak for myself and not the masses.

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