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Twisted_Steel

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posted September 18, 2000 02:18 PM

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Our chosen sport is nothing less than an absolute fascination to me. Some would dub my increased interest in this field as obsessive. I consider it an endeavor in the perpetuation intellectual health. My contention is that ignorance can be equated to blindness. Although infuriating, ignorance is no impediment towards success. It, like the inability to see can be overcome, if the desire is present.

As bodybuilders, weight lifters, competitive athletes, and intellectuals none of us can function as human beings without the chemical processes of the body. But, what in the hell is this process of �oxidative phosphorylation� (OP)? What exactly are �uncouplers� and how do we lose weight from �thermogenic � compounds?

Most of you who know me are aware that I am a stickler for simplicity, my lack of formal training within the field of chemistry, biochemistry, and endocrinology forces me to seek the simplest comprehensible answer. Lets tackle this process of OP and it�s exact implication to the bodybuilder.

Of foremost importance is to place this concept into perspective. OP is simply the term used to describe the formation of �Adenosine Triphosphate� as a result of transferring electrons to oxygen. Were dealing with the creation of �chemical energy�.

To further clarify this issue, I want you to think of our modern conception of the internal combustion engine. To this engine we now affix a drive shaft, axles, and tires. We now have energy in motion. This process is analogous to our own production of chemical energy within our system. Our Internal Combustion engine would be the mitochondria found within the cell. ATP�S presence at the cellular level is the fuel by which we realize our daily physical activity. Thus, our ability to train is realized.

Oxidative uncoupling is the process by which the formation of ATP can be inhibited. Let us fall back to our example of the engine. If we have the same engine suspended on a stand. Absent in this situation are the aforementioned parts needed for physical locomotion. Drive shaft, axles, and tires are not present. The agent by which energy is produced has not changed. The cellular engine (mitochondria) hasn�t changed, were still witnessing the creation and transference of energy we just no longer see it being done chemically. Instead, we see it the form of kinetic energy.

The energy that is produced is released in the form of heat. Since oxidative uncouplers increase heat production, they are sometimes referred to as �thermogenic agents�. Oxidative uncouplers such as DNP, MBEBP, Sodium Usinate, and Leptin all work in this fashion. To effectively impede the collection of cellular ATP, and in it�s stead release it in the form of heat.

This increased body temperature promotes an increased rate of lipolysis. In conjunction with time, this increased rate of lipolysis contributes to the rapid loss of adipos tissue bodybuilders realize in precontest training.

What have I left out? Please feel free to contribute more in depth information on this issue. Take note, that these products pose a significant danger to the unskilled user.
Therefore, I take little interest in their use. I am not about to ingest a chemical originally designed by the French to be used as a primary ingredient in explosive material. This however, doesn't detract from these agent's fasinating properties. Ohh, as a side note, science first became aware of DNP and its effects in the early 19th century when French munition workers first became exposed to it within the confines of their munition factory's, but I digress.
This is why research on leptin, the "obesity gene" has been so promising. I believe in the next 4-5 years science will have answered some of the vexing questions about Leptin resistance and its application as perhaps the safest oxidative uncoupler of them all. I�ll post information on this, as I find it.


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Bjaarki

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posted September 18, 2000 02:57 PM

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You're a very interesting guy, TS. You always surprise me. Here, I'll bump this for you, since I'm afraid your thread title may be scaring the brothers off.

Bjaarki

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45Plates

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posted September 18, 2000 04:36 PM

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Thanx TS, good read.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 18, 2000 04:58 PM

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As usual,another enlightening article of information T.S..Thank you sir.


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Twisted_Steel

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posted September 18, 2000 06:47 PM

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This forum is collectivly lossing brain cells rapidly. Where are the non-brain damaged meat heads today?

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GymRatSD

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posted September 18, 2000 06:50 PM

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Hopefully I'm not one of the brain dead ones here........


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 18, 2000 11:03 PM

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I'm bringing this one back up,as it answers a lot of fellas questions on the process of HOW DNP exerts its effectiveness on lipolysis.


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Future One

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posted September 19, 2000 09:14 PM

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If you're going to imhibit ATP production, then I'm assuming using Creatine, or Ribose is a waste while using these chemicals??

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Anabolicum Mister

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posted September 19, 2000 09:40 PM

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This increased body temperature promotes an increased rate of lipolysis.
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I tend to disagree on this point. I believe the increased rate of lypolisis is due to the fact that the cell has become very inefficient at making ATP and thus must draw from energy stores (fat) to meet the energy expenditure requirements of the organism. In essence, I see the increased body temperature and increased lipolysis both as 'side effects' of the uncoupling, rather than the lipolysis being caused by the increase in body temperature.


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supreme

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posted September 20, 2000 01:30 AM

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I agree, the increased lipolysis is due to the increase utilization of fat for energy. Although you feel warmer this due to vasodilation to rid the body of excess heat, if measure your temp you will notice only a slight change (unless using Clen & T3 with it)

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