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Bjaarki

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posted September 18, 2000 01:14 PM

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I've been reading this board for going on 6 months and have been posting for the past 2, have tried to contribute and help where I could, and have earned the trust of and developed relationships with a couple of the mods and a number of the brothers. If you can't help me with this, maybe you'll at least bump this thread up. If you can help, maybe you could email me offline. I'd really appreciate it.

Here's my problem: I'm an older guy, 49 years old, and have been lifting for coming up to 5 years. I'm in the best shape of my life, but I have a number of goals in the weight room that I just know I'm not going to be able to meet without some "hormone replacement therapy". Problem is, I'm a family man with a successful career and a wife and kids to protect, and after much soul searching I've come to the conclusion that it would be best for me to go a "legitimate" route, by acquiring a legal script for AS through an endocrinologist, sports medicine doc, whatever. I want, if possible, to locate a physician in my area, New Jersey - actually, anywhere between Philly and New York - who would at least be willing to seriously discuss this with me. I know that there must be a few brothers out there who have gone this route, and could help me out. I've discussed this with one of the mods and a couple of the vets offline, and they feel this thread probably won't generate much, but is worth a try. So, here it is.

I'm aware that this is a sensitive matter, so if you can help me, it would be best to email me offline rather than post to this thread. Just looking for an openminded doc in my area, is all. Thanks for your help.

Bjaarki

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2Thick

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posted September 18, 2000 01:18 PM

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I respect your choice to go the legitimate route towards a healthier (and longer) life.

I would urge any brothers with helpful information to e-mail Bjaarki.

He is a good brother.

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aten8

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posted September 18, 2000 01:46 PM

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The only thing I can suggest is at 49 you might be able to look at growth hormone replacement therapy. It is widely used as an anti aging supplement. If you find the right doctor it's possible they might perscribe it for you. Otherwise I would think for any A/S you would have to show some signs of a deficentcy, for a doc to be able to prescribe it for you.


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jdismukes

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posted September 18, 2000 02:02 PM

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Why don't you check with the little banner that was flashing ealier, New Hope Medical or something like that.


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posted September 18, 2000 02:26 PM

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Bump this for Bjaarki...

If you do get a script, it will likely be for a very small amount that won't do much in the way of building muscle. But, if you've got the prescription for example say, Testosterone Propionate you can't get in trouble if you've got a 3 month supply. So get whatever gear you can from the pharmacy and then get a little extra from a source.

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Bjaarki

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posted September 18, 2000 02:28 PM

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jdsmukes: I've talked about New Hope with a couple of bros. It's in LA, too far for me. I want to talk to a doc face to face about this.

aten8: GH is something I don't want to get into right now. I'm really looking for test cyp, deca, and maybe anavar. Thanks for the bump, though.

Bjaarki


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Jeff_rys

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posted September 18, 2000 03:02 PM

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What's wrong with Primobolan Depot ?
I would prefer that over Deca "a n y t i m e"

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bb4424

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posted September 18, 2000 03:25 PM

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start with your HMO primary care physician and tell them you are seriously concerned about your sex drive, confidence, lack of sleeping etc...tell them you think it is testosterone deficiency...if it works you will be doing the drugs for free...

also, new hope med has a great doctor who will consult with you over the phone and you can visit him for a few hundred bucks, fly out and see him..he will help you try and get it covered by insurance as well, good luck.


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Badkins21

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posted September 18, 2000 03:33 PM

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...just bumpin' this up for bjaarki...good luck bro!

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FLEXMEX

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posted September 18, 2000 03:47 PM

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BJ ... POSSIBLY TRY TO DO A SEARCH ON THE NET FOR A DOC IN YOUR AREA TO HELP YOU OUT.I DONT THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING HIM TO PRESCRIBE SOME FORM OF A/S TO YOU TELL HIM YOU WOULD LIKE TO, RENEW YOUR SEX LIFE OF SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.HOPE THIS HELPS.

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john937

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posted September 18, 2000 03:59 PM

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I'm older also. A couple of years ago I went to an endocrinologist and got tested. He put me on testosterone cypionate for "andropause". It's been both a blessing and a curse. I fell better and can gain muscle better, and I'm horny all the time, but on the other hand, your nuts shrink and that affects your experience of sex. Recently I found a doctor running an anti-aging study using Growth Hormone. It's more expensive but legal. As a part of the study they analyze ALL your hormones and suplement them all back to the level of a 30 year old. And he's putting me on HCG to get my nuts back
functional, and switching me to a testosterone topical cream that he says won't interfeer with my pituitary feedback loops and will keep me more "normal". My advice to you is to treat this whole topic from an
anti-aging perspective and find a doc interested in anti-aging therapies. It's a whole new interesting area and there are docs looking to help you out. With that approach the doc can legally perscribe testosterone for you that they wouldn't consider if you approach them with a bodybuilding request.


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Bjaarki

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posted September 18, 2000 04:01 PM

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Thanks to the bros for bumping and posting. I appreciate it. jdsmukes and bb4424: The problem with New Hope is it's too far for me. If I do this this way, I really want to talk it over with the doc, not to a correspondence kind of thing. Also, remember that I've got a family, not easy to just hop on a plane without a lot of explanations.

Also, bb4424, I have regular indemnity insurance, and my GP knows me pretty well, member of my congregation and everything, and he knows my sex drive is not a problem. He also knows how good shape I'm in, so it's not easy to spin some BS story. Flexmex, your idea is good, but my web surfing has come with zero, nada. That's why I put this thread out there, hoping some local guy who has gone this route would take pity.

Anyway, bros, Badkins et al, I appreciate your help. Hope I can turn it around for you sometime.

Bjaarki


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Jae

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posted September 18, 2000 04:14 PM

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Oh God Bjaarki, you must have been boinking your GP's wife in the church if he knows about your sex drive. Or those pot-luck dinners each month at the church are getting WAY out of hand.

Well you can always choose to go the route of mail order physicians. Some actually prescribe you almost anything, otherwise, choose another GP and if the question comes up about the "why don't you see your regular GP?" You can always say he is a member of your church and you think the issue is "too sensitive" to discuss with him. Believe me, it happens all the time.

Bump for you.


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beefmaster

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posted September 18, 2000 05:29 PM

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You want your cake & eat it to? Any longevity center will prescribe testosterone in injections,Gel, androderm patches, as well as HCG every 2 months for maintaining your nuts, they also have legal HGH if you want it. They do the blood tests, before & after each prescription and monitor it like you want. Any search engine will get you a dozen on the web that will take your money just as fast as the next to make it "legal". I'm reading your posts like you want other AS's in huge quantities legally, YOUR NOT GOING TO GET IT! What the doc gives you in the way of AS's other than the above mentioned weak 2 to 4 mg per day stuff isn't going to be what you want either because it's going to be a very small dose. So what exactly is it you want? A doc, near your house to prescribe sustenon @ 3 amp per week, and Promo Depot @ 400mg per week? Aint gonna happen.

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beef da newest newbie

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posted September 18, 2000 05:36 PM

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bump for a good bro, and i hope that you find what you are looking for!
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Luv2Lift

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posted September 18, 2000 05:43 PM

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Bjaarki--I'm 45 now and tried doing things "legit" a few years ago. Best my doc would do is give me the androderm patch which offers a lowly 5mg/day--big deal!
So, I took things in my own hands to get what I wanted in the quantities I needed. I think beefmaster is right. Very few docs are going to give you the quantities you seem to be looking for--for ethical and legal reasons. Work with some of the wise mods and vets and develop your own hormone therapy like I did. How you present your "hormone therapy" to your family (if you even tell your wife), I'll leave to you.
Hope for the best for you!


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DREXX

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posted September 18, 2000 07:09 PM

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Good luck Bjarkii! You are a good bro!


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Bjaarki

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Luv2Lift, Beefmaster:

I think you're right about most physicians, but I believe that the barriers to docs getting into serious anabolic supplementation are beginning to fall, as "life extension" medicine and other trends intensify. I know of at least one clinic that will prescribe 250+ mg testosterone cypionate, along with 200+ mg deca durabolin, along with halotestin, on a permanent basis to older guys. I've exchanged emails with two of the bros on this board, one of whom is well known, about this, and I believe them. Maybe that kind of dosage is not a Captain Insano cycle but, hey, there's nothing to prevent the enterprising patient from saving up four months of the those 250/200 redijects, and putting together a fine 8 week cycle.

My problem is locating a doc close to me with whom I could develop a good, understanding, professional relationship to get me where I want to go in terms of AS use, weights and fitness. Believe me, brothers, in 20 years or so that will be nothing unusual in medical practice, and what I'm looking for right now is the doc who is already there, ahead of the curve, so to speak. Two brothers have dropped notes in my hush box, maybe there's a lead there, and others are very welcome to do so.

Thanks, all you brothers, for your notes of encouragement, and for your signs of appreciation. I don't merit them, but I'll take 'em anytime.

Be well, and lift heavy.

Bjaarki


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posted September 18, 2000 09:29 PM

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Bump for Bjaarki

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cowbell

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posted September 18, 2000 10:38 PM

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I will bump!! it to the top. good luck on getting a script!!


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Dread Lord Good Guy

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posted September 18, 2000 11:26 PM

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cant put a old bro down


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Doc Ponch

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Try the Medibolics website. It has/used to have a directory of doctors across the country who are willing to prescribe AS for their patients wiht HIV. Maybe you can find one who will help you out, too.

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Hey Bjaarki, I know you did not specifically ask for this, but I took the liberty of putting together a cycle for ya. It might be a little tough on your system, so I tapered it up at the beginning and down towards the end. It might be a littel easier to obtain this "gear", too.

Wk#----Geritol----Metamucil----Viagra
1------2 Tbsp------8 0z--------1 pill
2------2 Tbsp------8 oz--------1 pill
3------3 Tbsp------8 oz--------2 pills
4-8----4 Tbsp------8 oz--------2 pills
10-12--2 Tbsp------8 oz---------None--

And don't forget the clomid eod, and as always, keep the nolvadex handy.

And I know we aren't supposed to mention sources, bro, but it seems to me you've suffered long enough. If you need help finding a source for this cycle, I'll hook ya up.

Yours in sport ,


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beefmaster

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Ok, I tried not to laugh I really did...........thats some funny shit!

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Bjaarki

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Starting Over:

Oh, you're a real pal!!! But listen, where's the Fixodent??? What kinda "stack" do you call this, anyway? And the Centrum "Silver." Where is it, man? I eat that shit like candy!

Gotta run, bro. Have to go get my walker lubed. Later ...

LMFAO.

Bjaarki


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You said N.Y., right? This doc is the Man. Email him. He specializes in plastic surgery and hormone replacement for pro and amateur bodybuilders, and will answer your email personally. http://www.drnadler.com/


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Starting Over

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Sorry, bro, didn't mean to exclude the fixodent or the Centrum Silver. But I was really thinking that you didn't need teeth for the protein shakes mixed with Ensure. But you also have another benefit that most of the REST of us don't: the detoxifying effect of the prune juice on your liver.

You've got be a good guy just to keep putting up with this shit...........


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Bjaarki

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Starting Over:

Yes, you're right. I AM a good guy.

You also know that I'm the father of small children and an educator by profession, so I'm used to turning an indulgent eye toward the folly of youth like you.

Seriously, thanks a lot to all the brothers who have joined this thread. Four brothers have emailed me with their ideas, on which I'll follow up. I've got a sneaking suspicion that this will all go for naught, and I'll end up in the underground like most of the bros, but I'll give it a go and see what surfaces.

Now, if you haven't done so already, go over to 2Thick's thread (on how you'll lose most of your gains from a cycle of test) and check it out. Good stuff, with E2, Ranger, 2Thick and WCP (all mods), as well as a bunch of vets joining in. See if you can't get Decaman to jump on board. He certainly has a dog in this fight.

Thanks again, brothers. Talk to some of you later.

Bjaarki

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