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quaker

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posted September 18, 2000 04:34 AM

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I'm 5'10, approx. 195, 13% bf...I'm looking to cut, but would also like some strength gains, and perhaps an additional 5 lbs of muscle mass. Before I start the cylce, I'll use ripped fuel, lots of cardio and low carb diet to get the BF down to around 8%. How does this look:

Week 1--Halo--20mg/day
Week 2--Halo--25mg/day
Week 3--Halo--30mg/day
Week 4--Halo--20mg/day--Inj. Winny 50mg eod
Week 5--Winny 50mg eod, Clen 40mcg/day
Week 6--Winny 50mg eod--Clen 60mcg/day
Week 7--Winny 50mg eod--ECA Stack
Week 8--Winny 50mg eod--ECA
Week 9--Winny 50mg eod, Clen 60mcg/day
Week 10--Winny 50mg eod, Clen 80/mcg day

Clomid at 50mg eod throughout, and 100mg ed weeks 11-12. Nolvadex 20mg ed.

Here's the other possibility I was considering. I don't need much more bulk, but I could deal with it if it was maintainable gains, and limited the halo sides--so this one is more of a combined cycle, using Dbol for strength gains for just 3 weeks, then focusing on cutting. The focus is still definitely on getting shredded, a full 8-10 week bulking phase would leave me to large for my preferences.

Week 1-3: Dbol: 20mg, 25mg, 25mg
Week 4-5: Winny 50mg eod, Clen 40 mcg, 60mcg
Week 5-7: Winny 50mg eod, Halo 20mg ed
Week 7-9: Winny 50mg eod, Clen, 60 mcg, 80mcg

With clomid, nolvadex, and liver protectors.

With this cycle, I see myself putting on 15lbs with the dbol, then solidying it with the winny and halo, and burning the extra fat with the clen, leaving me hopefully with 5-10 lbs of solid gains.

Two other questions, may need a seperate post: I have mild Attention Deficit Disorder, and will sometimes arbitrarily take a 10mg Ritalin if I find myself drifting--any problems/side effects this could cause with the gear? I also use Melatonin sleeping pills--could this raise any issues?

Please let me know what you guys think.

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ghans

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posted September 18, 2000 06:54 AM

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I would think you would be better off using something like eq rather than dbol if you are cutting.

No need to take the nolva throughout your cycle. If you notice signs of gyno, use it then.

You are fine with the Ritalin and Melatonin.

ghans


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aten8

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posted September 18, 2000 08:00 AM

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There is no need to use the nolvad. it is to hard on your stomach,and totally unneccesary with a v halo cycle.


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quaker

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posted September 18, 2000 08:25 AM

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thanks for the help guys--anyone else?


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quaker

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posted September 18, 2000 09:18 AM

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might also throw some proviron in during the dbol to fight off the bloat


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Omega44

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posted September 18, 2000 11:03 AM

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WHAT? dbol to cut up?? ahh no dont do that thats just dumb. dont use any tests either, and if u wana use an anti-estrogen use proviron cause that shit will get u hard. us anavar or somshit if u want orals


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