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 Attention all chemists. What is this stuff?
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Novice 
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There's this chemist who is cooking up some stuff in a big lab around here who claims the stuff is pretty awesome. I didn't get all the details but I got a glimpse at the bottle and it says "4-ANDROSTENE-3-one-17-ACETATE" The claims were that it is thin enough to be delivered easily with an insulin syringe, that it was very anabolic with minimul side effects, and that it had somehow been tweaked to attach to one's receptors better than conventional anabolics. Anyone ever heard of this or know excactly what it might be? Is it just another testosterone acetate?     | ||
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Cool Novice 
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never heard of it. bump to find out if anyone has | ||
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Novice
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I guess no one else has heard of it either. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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Could be a form of liquid d-bol. It is waterbased and has 17a molecule | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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It's simply a tweak on androstenedione. Instead of having two ketones at the 3 and 17 positions on the molecule, the one at the 17 position was substituted with the acetate group, probably to make it water soluable. I wouldn't expect it to be any more effective than typical andro. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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That sucks! | ||
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Novice
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So that means it will aromatise as quickly as regular andro as well? What about messing with natrual testosterone axis? I talked to some guy who has used it and he seemed real pleased. It is 50mg/ml and comes in 20ml vials. So basically you are saying your body would still have to convert this stuff for it to do anything. It's not a true anabolic? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I wouldn't expect the substitution of the ketone with the acetate to really do much more of anything other than to make it soluble in water. In essence, it's still androstenedione, a precursor to testosterone. The body would have to perform the chemical conversion to testosterone for it to be effective. An injectible version may be more beneficial than taking it orally, but I'd still stick with the granddaddy of them all: testosterone. |
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posted September 17, 2000 06:55 PM