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 Strongly considering first cycle, help me out!
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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i didn't wanna do this, but it appears i will be having knee surgery on my patella (just won't heal). i am preparing for something next year so i will now more than likely need steroids to reach my target weight. i was thinking Deca 400 mg a week, maybe with some insulin and clomid (of course). here is what i have to consider in this cycle: 1) i have TERRIBLE genetics as far as acne goes. that is the main basis for why i chose deca only at a low dose. if i take something like sustanon i will become a grotesque monster (we're talking keloid acne or whatever its called). 2) i keep hearing how great deca is for recovering from injuries. i was wondering if i should take some during the initial recovery phase (first few weeks after surgery, minimal to no lifting.) 3) i would like to keep the cost under $500. i could probably afford $750 but that is really pushing my budget. 4) i think i'm still growing and would like to be careful as far as screwing up that goes. i was also thinking of 8-12 weeks for the cycle because the projected recovery period from surgery is 8 weeks and i'd like to make some gains if i'm gonna go to the trouble of juicing. i was hoping the deca could reduce the time. and my final idea is to use DNP at 200-400 mg during the recovery period since it will get me ripped and help me maintain muscle at the same time. i appreciate all comments, suggestions, flames, whatever!! thanks in advance!     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 340 |
If you're a newbie to juice, why are you even CONSIDERING DNP?? DNP can keel you! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 279 |
ya i know but not at 200 mg. thats what i would start with, if i tolerate it will i would consider moving up to 400 mg. i have done lots of reading and educating myself on steroids, just have yet to use them. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 308 |
If you arent an experience user, Insulin is a definite no. Even if you have acne trouble, go with Test at 500mg with 400mg of Deca. The winter is coming, your body will be covered up. Then do a primo/winny cycle in the spring.... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 279 |
bigdog: i'd love to do test, but are you sure? when i say acne trouble, i mean literally 1/10,000 (if that) would have genetics as bad as me. when i was 14...OMFG. i would probably have to stop mid-cycle because of the acne. i could try to get a script for accutane before i started (probably could convince my dermatologist but not sure. in the past i was on it for over a year). the reason i say insulin is it would be perfect for me. anabolic with no affect on the AR. i've read lots about it. there is no chance of me goofing and getting in trouble with it. i'd start conservative and only use it in the mornings. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 701 |
I would use Deca/Primo. It's very safe and won't cause acne problems. The only thing to be careful of is Deca Dick. You might throw in just enough Sus to keep it stiff, should symptoms arise, or not arise as the case may be. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 279 |
thanks for all the replies so far. about how much would a 8 week cycle of primo and deca cost me? i heard they are expensive. can anyone give me a good pattern and dosages to use for the 8 weeks? i see some people using diamond patterns for deca and some just stay consistent or taper at the end. and should i use a low dose of deca during my recovery (like 100-200 mg) and then start the real cycle? or should i just forget the low dose after surgery and just go all out once i am totally healed? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 279 |
i've been reading and came up with another question. since i have no idea how prone i am to progesterone based gyno, should i take winny with the deca? 400 mg is a little high for a beginner i guess so i was wondering if that is a precaution i should consider. i hear winny is also one of the most expensive roids. can anyone give me an idea of what i'll be paying and if this is a good idea? i was thinking around 150 mg of winny a week to go with the deca, is that about right? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 301 |
Winny goes for about 185-200 for 20ml...50mg per ml or if you buy it by the amp, expect to pay up to $15.00 an amp. Winny works synergistically w/ deca so it might be a good idea to add it to your cycle. |
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posted September 16, 2000 04:40 PM