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john_wojo

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posted September 15, 2000 11:30 AM

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looking for somthing to add to my cycle of deca. Without excessive bloating and no test. Test makes me fuckin nuts and I'd like to try and keep my girlfriend. My last cylce was .25cc-.5cc reforvit B 4 times daily, 400cc test propinate weekly, and 400cc equpoise weekly. I put on 23 pound went from 155 to 178. Now I'm back to 160. Time for another cycle!!! I have 50cc of deca at 100ml per cc from illium australia.


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Yoda

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posted September 15, 2000 01:24 PM

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You only kept 5lbs???? You need to read up on clomid Bro, there's no reason to lose all your gains anymore. Also what are you trying to do, add more mass? If so you'll have to use a Test, dont see anyway around it.


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Curious II

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posted September 15, 2000 01:27 PM

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Try adding weights and protein. Plenty of both. Works every time for me.

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john_wojo

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posted September 15, 2000 01:39 PM

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funny. I'll try that weights and protien shit..


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john_wojo

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posted September 15, 2000 01:44 PM

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Thanks yoda. I'll look at clomid. I don't think my guy can get any though.


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Valdez

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posted September 15, 2000 01:58 PM

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dude no offense but you should not use roids if your only 160lbs!!! that's puny...

are you like 5'3 or what.............


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animal B

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posted September 15, 2000 04:09 PM

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deca dball and primabolan


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PSYCO

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posted September 15, 2000 04:30 PM

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I agree with Animal as far as d-bol but I would add Winstrol instead of Primobolan.
Winny gives good solid gains and should help to prevent any gyno the deca could cause. You'll keep most of your gains from this stack, but you should definately get some Clomid!


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Curious II

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posted September 16, 2000 03:08 AM

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I only weighed 154 when I started using juice. But I had been lifting very hard and eating very hard for 6 years. I was extremely skinny when I started lifting 120 at 5' 10" coming out of highschool. I come from a family where no one is fat and everyone is skinny. My father who is 55 still only weighs 167 and is the same height as me. I just got skinny genes and a very small skeletal frame. The frame has actually been a blessing in disguise because it makes joints small..hence arms look big. I lifted harder than anyone I ever knew and was proportionally stronger than anyone I knew. I just couldn't put on much size. This unfortunately was close to my genetic potential. I researched well and since I have started juiceing I have put on an additional 30 pounds. As long as you are experienced enough to know when your not gonna get much more if any naturally and have done everything else there is to do, then you should juice. Because of my small frame every pound I put on looks like two, so I have been very satisfied with my steroid experience. Hopefully after I get up to my goal weight of 190 I will post some pictures to get some constructive critisism. Peace!

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Jeff_rys

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posted September 16, 2000 01:26 PM

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He Psyco, i agree that Winny is great for keeping your gains, but so is Primo. I would not shut out Primo for anything else.

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Consultant

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posted September 16, 2000 01:31 PM

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Everyone has got to start somewhere Start the clomid earier and harder. Primo is the best!(bold statement but I will stand behind it) Try a deca eq cycly or d-bol/deca/ sus/ primo and winny at the end if you want to get real involved.


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beef da newest newbie

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posted September 16, 2000 02:02 PM

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bro, that blows my mind that you only kept 4 punds off your last cycle. you will have to look at what you were doing when you came off. i know from expirience that a lot of ppl that i know who juice will do the "work out while i am on" routine, and when the cycle is over, the lose motivation, and you dont see them in the gym anymore. i know how hard it can be to keep lifting while you are losing weight. a-bombs taught me that. but i just had to suck it up and keep it up. my workout schedule is about the equivilant of a part time job, on or off cycle with a few things diff of corse. you have to make sure that you are getting the nutritional aspect of BB, and there are a lot of things that will help you keep gains. go to the search engine and type "gains keeper formulas" and there should be some really helpful info there. hope that this helps and dont get discouraged, just takes time! oh, and i would add an oral like d-bol, i wouldnt do a-bombs again,with that deca. talk to e2, he is good with cycles that in my opinion are safe and easy to maintain. winny orals might be the way to go. anyone else?
late,

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buff221

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posted September 16, 2000 02:08 PM

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My favorite is dbol, deca, and sustanon.


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Dread Lord Good Guy

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posted September 16, 2000 02:09 PM

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mix it with weed


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john_wojo

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posted September 16, 2000 11:12 PM

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Thanks guys,
Ive' tried winny and deca before and was real happy. I'm only 5'8" but I've come a long way. I started out with a 34" waist at about 5'5" at 155 lbs. Now I'm 155 pounds at 8-10% bf before I was about 25% bf. my first cyle was stanzolic and greek deca. At this point I was about 143lbs ripped and when done I was about 155 lbs ripped. a year later I did a second cycle of dbol,test prop, and eq. I went from 155 to 178 and stopped there. when I came off It sucked. I had just started a new career moved 40 miles away from my gym and lost my licence. It was real f'n tought o keep it all doing f'n push ups and chin ups. I didn't use any clomid either which didn't help. This time I want to do it right. My only problem is I'm very susceptable to gyno and don't want tits bigger than my girls. so I try to stay away from test. Plus it makes me absolutely f/n nuts when somone pushes my buttons. I'm thinking of deca, eq, and primo. but I also like dbol and winny.


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ghans

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posted September 17, 2000 03:55 AM

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I'm planning on stacking deca with sust. If you want mass with the deca, use some test with it.

ghans


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