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 What does 17aa mean?
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Novice 
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I've been told that winny is 17aa. What does that mean? -Preechr     | ||
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Novice
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that it's a 17 alkolid...sp that means it passes through the liver more than once...takes the liver longer to break it down....can be toxic...kinda like dbol and halotestin ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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IT BASICALLY MEANS THAT IT IS FORMULATED FOR ORAL CONSUMPTION THAN INJECTION. THEREFORE MORE STRESS ON YOUR LIVER! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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it means your liver wont be smiling. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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Ok, in a vain attempt at simplicity, here goes. Better chemistry has yielded modern bodybuilding pharmacology with a group of oral steroids which can not be effectivly destroyed by the liver. Known as the "Alkyl or Methyl" group steroids like Winstrol, Anavar, Dball, Anadrol all these steroids share one commonality. Located on the 17th Alpha position is an atom of carbon instead of hydrogen. Now, your gonna need a member like dezl or Macro to further explore the chemical significance of this, but in short this carbon atom is genrally added in the form of a mythl group. This inovation is what makes these steroids viable in oral form. Whats more this very process also yields a high tendancy towards aromatization into estrogen along with the added hepatoxicity of these drug. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Twisted_Steel (edited September 14, 2000).]  | ||
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Moderator 
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17aa means an alkyle group was added to the 17th Carbon atom....it's done this way to keep it in the system longer requiring fewer dosages...Yup, passes through the liver more often too!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Twisted said it best bro. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Twisted Steel really surprises me sometimes! Nice post, bro! There was nothing in it for you, you were just being helpful, and you did an ace of a job. Bjaarki | ||
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Novice
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Switching the methyl group on the 17th position affects bonding on the entire molecule. Every biomolecule only has a certain sites on it which can be bonded to other molecules, enzymes, etc.I believe because of the change in structure, the liver enzymes have a heck of a time breaking down (due to structural changes of the molecule) the biomolecule into a more inert substance. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Good post, Twisted. However, 17 alpha alkylation has nothing to do with the tendency of the compound to aromatize into estrogens. That is dependent upon the base compound. For instance, stanazolol does not aromatize to any great degree; however, boldenone (unmethylated d-bol) will aromatize to estradiol--the addition of the methyl group to create methandrostenlone will result in its attachment to the aromatized product, creating methylestradiol, which will have more acute effects at the receptor level than its unmethylated counterpart estradiol. |
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posted September 14, 2000 07:43 PM