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George Spellwin

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posted September 13, 2000 07:59 PM

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Just curious,

Why do you think people hack Elite? And why do you think we have had so much hate on the boards in the past?

This is a fitness forum! I just do not get it. Do they have these problems on the sewing forum or the Italian cooking forum?

I wonder

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Slopain

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posted September 13, 2000 08:01 PM

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rival boards jealous trying to get more users.

Slopain


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timac

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posted September 13, 2000 08:07 PM

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i've checked out other boards and....................THEY SUCK.
jealousy is the only reason i can think of.
this board really is THE SHIT!


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GymRatSD

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posted September 13, 2000 08:10 PM

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Three words: BECAUSE THEY CAN.

Each time an improvement to the security is made, it just makes it a challenge for them to try again. Eventually they will get bored.


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Consultant

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posted September 13, 2000 08:12 PM

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bump for gymrat


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1AbBIG

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posted September 13, 2000 08:13 PM

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i over look all the BS that goes on sometimes. it does get annoying. actually, since i have been here , i only have known of the board starting to be hacked when corgon and his buddies came in and their post were deleted for source posting. there are so many opinions that fly around here and many people take things personnal, why, i dont know. there is great knowledge on this board and it is shared amoung everyone. i love this board and have since january. thats why i continue to come back .


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Loophole Genetics

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posted September 13, 2000 08:16 PM

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I'm with Slopain. Other boards want more people involved. This is the only board that I ever go to, due to the great format, the experienced, more-than-willing-to-help people here, and the list goes on. I think that pisses the other boards off, because they're not number one. This board is simply the best. No more to say.


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Gettinhard

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posted September 13, 2000 08:16 PM

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Multiple reasons

1. either the little fucker gets flamed and wants to ruin it for everyone else.....

2. other boards who know they suck and think the can ruin our parade.

3. Just another fucking loser trying to give me RAGE....LOL

4...George honestly, i cant figure out why people want to screw with the board...i take this board very serious it has become a part of my routine i look forward to talking to the brothers of ELITE....This board is a good board to build realationships with brothers all over the world.........


HACKERS AND SCAMMERS fall into the same Boat they should all die.........

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posted September 13, 2000 08:18 PM

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1. High profile sites are always targets (i.e. take it as a compliment).

2. The challenge, George, the challenge.

But as you stated earlier today, the more you are hacked the better your site security becomes (technology/system admin.) and your team's skill set continues to evolve. The latter can only improve via "real-world" challenge IMHO.

Later,


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hambone

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posted September 13, 2000 08:19 PM

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I think because this is such a popular site and hackers want to be were the action is so as to be able to disrupt as many people as possible, it also may be an easy target for young hackers, maybe a lack of security,though i don't know that.just my thoughts
i am curious, how many "hits" does elite get in a day?


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finallygotlayed

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posted September 13, 2000 08:22 PM

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they do it because we're the best site in the genre and because there are a lot of members(people to piss off). I they hack yahoo's chat board, everyone will just go to excite and enjoy the same quality. Here, anything else is a step down, and a hassle. That's why they target elite.

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lifter1

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posted September 13, 2000 08:32 PM

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George
Most people that attack successful people are small narrow minded. They concentrate all there effort towards bringing you down. The strong always survive and the weak keep comming. Don't be angry or upset.
George it's a complement, and who ever leaves this board because of these insignificant problems, does'nt have much to offer anyway. peace


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Frackal

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posted September 13, 2000 08:41 PM

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Didn't Bigsport have a lot of trouble with a group of hackers called the ----- -- Knights? I forget their full names but..


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Beezers

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posted September 13, 2000 08:45 PM

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They're jellous of us beautiful people.


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chesty

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posted September 13, 2000 08:47 PM

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Hackers are weak minded fools who take pleasure in causing pain anonymously. They would act different if they had to do it in person.

Or, maybe it is the government that is hacking in and gobbling all the info they can on the users. Maybe that is why are accounts have been wiped.

Who knows, I think we should just round up the little f*ckers and shoot 'em.

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Parabellum

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posted September 13, 2000 08:51 PM

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Thay hack elitefitness.com because they want what you have to offer, the reports. They just don't want to pay for them.

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timac

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posted September 13, 2000 08:52 PM

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ooooh rah big chesty. nice pic.
glad to see i'm not the only devil dog.


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jimmy044

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posted September 13, 2000 08:57 PM

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the hackers are going for the gold mine's.first they hit western union , now they hit elite fitness.they know where the high priority info is,just can't get their hands on it. stay on top of it george.


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Diver

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posted September 13, 2000 09:04 PM

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bump (heh heh) chesty nice sig bro!!

wooo hooo i have 2 post now.

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The Ranger

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posted September 13, 2000 09:07 PM

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They're just cocksuckers!!!!!

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Twisted_Steel

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posted September 13, 2000 09:07 PM

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I would say: Its just one of those days, where you dont wanna wake up, everything is fucked, everyone sucks, you really dont know why, but you wanna justify RIPPING someones HEAD OFF.

I squat these feelings away, guess these kids dont squat.

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Diver

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posted September 13, 2000 09:15 PM

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HOLY SHIT TWISTED I WAS JUST WORKIN OUT TO LIMP TODAY!!

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WATER

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posted September 13, 2000 09:19 PM

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Don't know But I wouldn't mind getting all my info back up.

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@LRG

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posted September 13, 2000 09:32 PM

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b/c they can and like the challenge, people like to fuck things up there not a part of: well computer hackers sorry your weasels get off the com. and go lift!

im@LRG


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bsjohnson

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posted September 13, 2000 09:33 PM

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I didnt' read everyones response, but i think it can be someone of those guys that come on and bump like crazy or they post sources, then get totally flamed for it. They can be pissed off(they also can kiss my ass). But i thought that maybe its the gov. trying to shut down the site. But thats my opion. Shit anything that goes agains the gov. or that makes more money than they do, they either what a cut of the money or shut it down. Thats my .02, later


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E2

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posted September 13, 2000 09:41 PM

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Actually i think the hackers are some scamming sources who we've exposed as scammers. I can think or corgan as one, i'm pretty sure he's in on it. I can understand them being upset, after all we've ruined their scamming business.


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luckey

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posted September 13, 2000 09:41 PM

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soome of these people are complete morons

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Hacker

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posted September 13, 2000 09:43 PM

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Wasn't me. LOL!!! Quit picking on poor o Hacker.


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guitarzan

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posted September 13, 2000 09:57 PM

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Hey are you sure it was hacked? Is there any trail or evidence? This kind of stuff seems more like a network error of some kind.


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The Canadian Oak

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posted September 13, 2000 10:04 PM

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they are fat and want revenge on the ppl who r in good shape

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bgriff

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posted September 13, 2000 10:45 PM

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I honestly think is is some littloe piss ant that got flammed so he is messing up the site!!!

COOL!!!!!!!!!!1 I see Ranger and E2 are back!!!

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posted September 13, 2000 11:09 PM

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Yup, I agree with Bgriff its someone who got flamed or exposed as a scammer. This board is the best, but you got to admit when it comes to flaming a newbie we're also right up there to. I've been saying it over and over again that you need to be careful what you say to people, if you keep dumping on people randomly your eventually going to cross someone who can do something about it, or at the very least is able to hire someone to do it for them. Think people!!!


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posted September 13, 2000 11:15 PM

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george, here's my opinion...

bottom line there is somewhat of a science to steroid use. i would say that a high majority of members here are above average intelligence. i would also say a high number of peole here have professional careers or in college. having said this, these are the kind of people that have computer training, and some more than others that would know how to hack into a website. i dont think your average italian cooking board member could figure that out...

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Ahh to hell with them...you can try to erase an Iron Brother as much as you want..but like the rash on E2's ass...we just KEEP COMING BACK...!!!

Fuckers,
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Twisted91

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posted September 14, 2000 02:47 AM

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Haa..LOL
Bump for E2 to see!!!


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posted September 14, 2000 03:38 AM

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Because they are Cocksuckers with nothing better to do...!

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Jeff_rys

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posted September 14, 2000 06:24 AM

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Maybe it's personal against you George ?
You may have enemies you don't know of.
Or jealousy for your succesfull board.

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ralphe

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posted September 14, 2000 10:04 AM

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They have no life, therefore they have nothing better to do than sit around and try to screw up things for everyone else....

They obviously don't want the information and wouldn't be able to utilize it if they did....

Like the person that rides your bumper .....Stupid......everything comes back around...


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Jae

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posted September 14, 2000 01:54 PM

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OH what the hell? Too much time, too little muscles? who knows.


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bigjohnstud

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posted September 14, 2000 02:10 PM

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I think its just punk kids with to much time on their hands. They are just doing stupid shit to gat a little laugh.


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Jeff_rys

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posted September 14, 2000 04:13 PM

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Punk kids, but way only this board ?

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bigjohnstud

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posted September 14, 2000 04:47 PM

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im sure they mess around on every board then can find.


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Maverik

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posted September 14, 2000 05:00 PM

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I agree with Gymrat. Some people have a passion for hacking like we all do for BB so it is always a new challenge for them. It probably gets them even happier when they see how it pisses us off.


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Gbomb

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I think they are losers, it aggravates me when i come on and there are absolutly no topics on the board...I also hate the fact i lost all my posts...It wasnt like i lost as much as some of the rest of you but it still sucks....George bust these bumbs....and if any live in the boston area ill hunt them down for ya.....thanks for the great board...


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Maverik

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I guess it also has to do with the fact that it is the only time that any of those little computer nerds can ever stop us big guys from doing anything so it probably gives them a sense of power. More telephone tough guys for you.


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hayesjones

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George you should know the answer to that. We are the guys that their girls look twice at.
We are the guys that take away those girls.

Its an ego thing. They cant beat us any other way, so they try to screw with us!

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ulter

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When the hackers came here last month they were shut down by our "hacker buster", from the UK I believe. But not before "hacker buster" (I forget his name) toasted one of their hard drives in retaliation for their hacking this board.
The game is now on. Most hackers, in this case script kiddies, hang in groups, Dark Angels, Frozen Crew, Dark Shadows etc consist of several members from around the world. So when you attack one you give them all a new "cause". This website is a particularly interesting challenge to them because it is not just a website it is a web "application", a program that is a lot of fun for them to crack.
This is not over and may never be over until like someone said they get bored. The cost for the kind of security expert that it would require to lock down this site is around $20-$30,000 last time I checked.


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xrciseink

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posted September 14, 2000 05:56 PM

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This board is awesome. Thats why. It's probably kids having fun. Kind of like when a lot of us were young getting into trouble. It's a shame they don't realize the problems they cause.


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bsjohnson

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posted September 14, 2000 06:20 PM

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i agree with you ulter.... They stay in groups. So if you mess with one, then there are many more to follow. But no matter what you do to secure your computer, there will always be a way to hack into any system. It happens to the gov. computers, and they have the money for the security. Lets just hope nonthing serious ever happens by there hacking attempts.


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Pet Rock

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posted September 15, 2000 01:27 AM

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GymRat hit the nail on the head a long time ago.. Hackers hack because they can and because it's there.... Sometimes it's just that simple.


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posted September 15, 2000 01:53 AM

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silly f*ucker's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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ironmaster

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posted September 15, 2000 05:41 AM

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George, you tell us. When the site is hacked, what happens that we don't see? Are Member personal data files(IP addresses, original email addresses, cookies, credit card #'s) collected by Elite downloaded or copied? If so, then its probably gov. retained hackers gathering info. or just practicing. If they just fuck with things like # of posts, user names or just crash the site, then its amateurs who enjoy the challenge, or have a bone to pick.


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George Spellwin

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posted September 15, 2000 12:35 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by hambone:
I think because this is such a popular site and hackers want to be were the action is so as to be able to disrupt as many people as possible, it also may be an easy target for young hackers, maybe a lack of security,though i don't know that.just my thoughts
i am curious, how many "hits" does elite get in a day?

Daily, we average:

16,000 to 20,000 visitors
150,000 page views
576,000 hits

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burndaddy

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posted September 15, 2000 12:39 PM

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hey george remember that the top dog all ways has to fight off the other mutts who are tring to get to the top of the hill...

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George Spellwin

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Posts: 558
From:New York, NY USA
Registered: Nov 1999

posted September 15, 2000 12:45 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by ironmaster:
George, you tell us. When the site is hacked, what happens that we don't see? Are Member personal data files(IP addresses, original email addresses, cookies, credit card #'s) collected by Elite downloaded or copied? If so, then its probably gov. retained hackers gathering info. or just practicing. If they just fuck with things like # of posts, user names or just crash the site, then its amateurs who enjoy the challenge, or have a bone to pick.

There is no danger to personal information. It is encrypted using very strong encryption and it not at all easy to get to. Here's why:

Credit card info comes from you to us when you buy reports, but board info goes both ways. The systems are quite different.

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George

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johnny_lats

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posted September 15, 2000 01:02 PM

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I think it was the fuckers at testosterone.net

I tried to post a question on their new censored board and they would not allow it to be posted. (Unlike elite, they have to preapprove all posts before they go up.)

I asked for opinions about PGF2A and I included a link to an excellent article that is in the archive on elitefitness.com. Check it out if you want:
https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/03-2000/000426.html

Anyway, here's what they sent me back:

--- [email protected] wrote:
> Sorry, but your message wasn't accepted for posting.
> Please reread the
> rules (on the message submission page) and try
> again, or contact
> customers service at 800-530-1940 (719-473-5500) or
> [email protected].
>
> Thanks for your participation.

So I replied to them as follows:

Thanks for a great site, but I do not understand why the message was not posted. I referenced a very interesting and thorough article on PGF2 that I thought your readers would want to comment on. Additionally, I am thinking about a PGF2 cycle and wanted to hear your readers comments in light of the article. How could this be inappropriate?

Johnny Lats

I have still not gotten a response, but will let you know if they send one.

George, you and your site have real class. You let people post links to other sites, as well as criticism of elitefitness.com itself -- and you and the mods do not delete it or censor it.

I think it is safe to say that testosterone.net hates you.

Later,
Johnny


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