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Diver

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posted September 13, 2000 06:39 PM

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i have a small wager on this....

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chesty

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posted September 13, 2000 06:42 PM

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Probably, but I know the dea and the local yocals only train to sniff narcotics.

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Maverik

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posted September 13, 2000 06:47 PM

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I think they can be trained to sniff just about anything. Hell I even saw on TV a while back where there was this dog that could sniff out cancer cells. But I don't think it ever happens and I am not sure if it is even possible since they are in an enclosed amp. Maybe they could sniff out loose orals but there are so many types of roids that I would think it would be very hard to train them all. Listen to Chesty, he should know for sure.


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Griff

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posted September 13, 2000 07:02 PM

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Dogs can't be trained to sniff out anabolics since they are usually in amps and bottles. Unlike pot, heroine and coke, they dont really have a distinct odor. I know that the State Police in most states say that their dogs can but its only a scare tactic..


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marky

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posted September 13, 2000 07:07 PM

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Maybe they couldnt sniff the gear, but what about the oils that they're mixed with? I've opened Brovel boxes and occasionally there is a little oil on the label. Possible? Then again, the dogs would be raiding personal lunches.


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chesty

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posted September 13, 2000 07:22 PM

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The sensitivity of the canine nose is unbelievable. I have seen events where an object was sealed in a glass jar, buried several feet underground and the dog found the item in a matter of minutes.

What are we talking about when we say steroids? Most likely some synthesized hormone. Most creatures emit feramones (which are hormones) which another animal can smell and use to determine the sex of the animal. Even dogs!

So, yes they can, but then every person would be searched constantly, because they are always putting off hormones of some sort or another. So you would be hard pressed to develop the pc using a dog. Not to mention the cost of the training in teaching the dog to sniff for the hundreds of variations of steroids.

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posted September 13, 2000 07:27 PM

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Ive talked with breeders of wolf hybrids which are supposed to have the best noses of any breed.


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krzysiu013

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posted September 13, 2000 08:25 PM

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well if they are trained to find it im sure they can. for example if they want a dog to find weed. to make a long process/story short, the easiest way to train the dog is to fill a chew toy, or sock, or anyhting else the dog will have fun with, with the desired substance the dog is suppose to find. make a toy out of it and have the dog to find it. so when the dog is at the airport or your trunk or whatever, he/she usually isnt looking for weed, its just looking for its damn toy cuz it wants to play. so with the nose sensitivity of some dogs im sure it can find the "oils" and whatnot. of course, if that is what it's specifically trained to look for.

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Diver

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posted September 13, 2000 09:07 PM

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well then this kicks ass becuase where ive hidden my stash i know no damn human will ever find my shit!!!!!

oh and i win the bet..i think.. i said they probably could but then again how does one prove it

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Omega44

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posted September 13, 2000 09:08 PM

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Honestly i dont think so, lets be realistic unless u have this juice in a pocket with a busted amp, or an open jar of pills then yes. But these drugs are made in quality labs (most of them) and smell is sublimation of the solid. so if no gas can come out of the amp, jar, etc then no the dog cant smell it. shit most of those amps are in a small vacuum, thats y they pop when u open them.


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Zeke_B

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posted September 13, 2000 09:34 PM

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If you trained dogs to sniff gear, I think they could find it no prob. There would be enough stuff around when it was packaged to make everything smell. They couldn't smell it a mile away like powder cocaine though. This is my guess, mind you. I don't actually know. It's irrelevant anyway since dogs would never be trained to sniff gear. Just wouldn't be cost effective. I think orals would be quite simple for dogs to smell, btw.

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Deltzilla

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posted September 13, 2000 10:48 PM

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I know for fact they can't. I know someone that' house got raided and they didn't bother to bring the dogs on b/c all that was there was Ecstasy and juice. Maybe they just didn't have trained dogs on hand, but it seems unlikely to me.


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Yoda

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posted September 13, 2000 10:56 PM

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I beg to differ with you Deltzilla, they absolutely can be trained to sniff out steroids. They arent trained to do it though, thats why your buddy was safe from the dogs. I have trained dogs for years, and some of our handlers work with law enforcement and they can be trained to sniff out anything that emits a scent. Thats a fact Bro!!! Now will law enforcement ever train them for this purpose, chances are very slim, its an expensive undertaking and there would be very little in actual payoff(Busts). Now Customs, thats another story. I can see them doing it, with all the gear that flows through they could justify the expense, but not on the state level.

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Omega44

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posted September 13, 2000 11:05 PM

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Well i dont think they can, think about it whats the dog looking for testosterone?? or the oil/water in them. thats pretty much whats in test steroids. and if it can smell test through a vile then im sure it can smell it through my skin. Also u would have to train a dog to smell EVERY SINGLE form of AS, now a dog isnt that smart. most dogs can only smell weed,cocaine,heroin,explosives.

those all have VERY destinct smells. and i dont think its worth it for the K9 unit to train dogs for roids, because there are so many diffrent roids to cover with diffrent sents. it takes a dog approx 2 years to graduate from training, it takes it 2 years to be able to learn and search for that smell. its not that easy. shit their dogs not machines.


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