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 The final word... TTOKKYO LAB RESULTS
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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The mods of this and another board were sent the results of the testing done by an associate of LOD (LineOfDefense) on a few of the Ttokkyo products plus the Tornel Deca 200 product. As a chemist, I can tell you that these results look very good. First, a word of caution. The actual number values received should not be taken as gospel. The instrument used in this laboratory was either a GC (gas chromatograph) or an HPLC (high performance liquid chromatograph), meaning one cannot throw a sample on the instrument and simply get a result. The instrument needs a control, telling it what level to measure at... or simpler, is needs a known 200 mg/ml sample of something to know how a 200 mg/ml sample actually responds, and then it can determine unknowns based on proportion calculations. The controls used where other, known pharmaceutical products, not raw materials. This means that, for example, an Organon 100 mg/ml Deca Durabolin sample was used as Let me know what you think of this. If it looks as good to you as it does to me, I'd like someone to post the results on a web page so skeptical brothers can look it up personally. Here are the products that were used as controls: The final numbers (remember, these are BALLPARK figures -- there will be a margin of error): It's now out of my hands here folks... one of the moderators will have to post actual test results on a web page somewhere so everyone can see them.     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1235 |
I think I just copped a wood.LOL!!! | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1999 |
Bump to put this at rest, lets hope Ttokkyo stays this way... Slopain | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1235 |
Slopain do you mean it's actually safe for someone to talk about Ttokyo in a positive light without incurring your wrath?J/K. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1999 |
Only looking for the truth, I had used the dbols before the tests came out and you didnt hear me saying that ttokkyo was LEGIT, I said I used them had good results but could not attest to the dosage w/o lab work - thats what I said from the begining (as well as most of the other "skeptics") We waited for the scans to be available and now they are - read gymrats post again for cautions but all in all now things can be said WITH FACTS to back them up - that being the lab scans. Now to plan for that bottle of anavar in my closet. lol Slopain | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1235 |
The anavar is REALLY what has commanded my attention.At $85.00 per 100.It blows away SPA. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1136 |
Was LODs tests done by an independant lab or by a friend of his. If they were not done by an independent lab the results are useless. A friend of mine tested the deca300 at 176mgs I didn't post it because it's irrelevent if it wasn't done by a reputable lab that we could call to get the results. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 674 |
This was an independent laboratory, whose name is not going to be discussed here. Facts remain, the results are good -- it would take more work to attempt to fake these then it would be to actually perform them. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1999 |
bump so we dont have 3 topics on the 1st page asking about this. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 674 |
Try to keep this at the top so all interested parties see it. Hopefully some of the other mods will respond and even upload the actual test results to a web page. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 813 |
has anybody actually used this stuff? if so please post results. test look good but lets here about real results from folks other than those who have been bashing back and forth. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1235 |
Yeah bro,Slopain stated in his above post that he used their d-bol with success. | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 7 |
If this is the case then why is the results lower(deca) on the company's own website??? The Ttokkyo site claims Deca at 286(or something like that) The site has copies of all their lab tests. The addy can be found on the anabolex board. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1999 |
I think results differ, each and every batch will not be EXACTLY the same, plus the aforementioned (ya like that huh?) testing procedures also will cause a variance. Slopain | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 674 |
Slopain is correct. There are many variables in the testing procedures that will give different results. The important thing to look at is the relative similarities to the various results. They are quite similar, and that's a very good sign. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 291 |
Lots of info floating around I am confused ( and thats hard to do) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 674 |
What are you confused about, Consultant? Anything I can do to answer some questions? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 164 |
I just got my paws on some ttokkyo, i'll keep you guys posted as to my results! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 112 |
bump to the top ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 813 |
who is getting results? please post. uptop it mentions he also took test. so who else has gotten results from this stuff. i have not tried it nor do i know of anybody who has so common poeple post results positive or negative enquiring minds want to know. if there are positive results i am sure folks would talk about it but to date there are only a few from the people who always talk about this company. lets hear from the masses. this is not a slam i really want to read as many posts as possible. labs reports aside results speak and if this stuff rocks we all want to be sure before speaking about it to others. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 48 |
would also love to see results from iron brothers. have held off getting this as i have not heard much. let us know | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 501 |
A friend of mine, who is in his late thirties, been a BB for over 15 years and has cycled alot has been using the Deca 300 and in his words "Its F*cking Fantastic"!!! I know this man very well and he knows his shit, and I believe him. I'm glad we now have some testing to back up the claims, now maybe this controversy will finally die down. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 38 |
This sound like the shit. Let me be one of the first lab rats!!!LOL "Reinventing the Steel" | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 197 |
bump | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1999 |
Flexed I did the dbols by themselves only to see if they worked, wasnt sure if you were reffering to me butI had some damn good results with the dbols. I was curious and I have access to all the ttokkyo products and wanted to know whats up. Slopain | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 813 |
cool, i mis read thought you took test as well. i really hope this stuff pans out as the price is good. keep us all posted on your gains and i look forward to reading others gains as well. to hell with test results hearing from folks on the boards about results is what we all need. keep us posted and grow big flexed1 | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1557 |
Ive read the test results that you sent gymrat..and although they werent the clearest, I would say if they are fake, someone went through alot of damn trouble doing it for no real reason. Although as stated above the dosages can vary from one batch to the next, it appears that the quality is still above that of tornell, as far as dosage is concerned. The dbol came it I believe at 5.6mg a tab...and I think the t200 was like 198 or something, but needless to say, if Ttokkyo continues this kind of quality, the competition has a reason to worry. Hmmmm.., ------------------  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 309 |
I know someone who is going to have anavar in their next cycle, teehee... ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 674 |
Sorry about the clarity of the test results. They were a scan of a fax. Anyway, BUMP!! | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1999 |
No problem flexed1..its all good. Bump for cheaper deca and anavar. Slopain | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
I too had the results faxed to me and they look legit. El CHuchuin cara de violin! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 479 |
the quote lab reports are not even a real report there is to much info missing , but tornel has done well TTOKKYO 50% bunk | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1999 |
Diehard who did you recieve your 'quote lab reports' from? Slopain | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 2355 |
i'm wondering who paid for the tests | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
die_hard842, aka Will Ekard, aka Mike Barr, don't go spilling information that you have absolutely no knowledge on. Each post you make reveals how much of an idiot and whiner you really are. You're not a chemist. You don't know how to read the reports. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 674 |
I know who paid for the tests. It's information that I don't want to reveal on the board. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
bump! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 546 |
I've got some anavar and I'm currently on the d-bol fro since monday. It's already kicking in for sure as I'm getting fuller already and have seen gains of about 5 pounds in four days. This is with an anti-estrogen. I'm not a newbie so this stuff has to be good or I wouldn't be growing yet as my other drugs (sus and EQ) won't have much of an effect in terms of weight gain yet. Hope this helps. I'll let you know more in a week or two and definitely post results of the anavar when I cut. | ||
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Novice
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Im currently on d-bol and Deca 300 my first injection was on monday at 1 cc im going to go 450 to 600 mg a week. Ill keep you guys posted on my results along with the d-bol i hope to see some nice gains. Keep you guys posted Later MD | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
Good info. I definitely have to get that 300 mg deca now!! |
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posted September 13, 2000 05:47 PM
