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 PGF2a article written by Michael Gundill(Dharkam)
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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This is a piece of an article written by Michael Gundill(a.k.a.Dharkam)in the June 1999 Ironman Magazine: Since prostaglandins like PGF2 are such powerful growth inducers,it was only a matter of time before some of the more extreme bodybuilders rationalized that adding extra PGF2 might help build muscle mass.When vials of it started appearing in gyms in the mid-1990's,body transformations began taking place at an extremely fast pace.Here's what happens when bodybuilders use PGF2:Within 2 or 3 days,their muscles get very hard.In less than a week,new muscles are popping out of their skin,and they start shedding fat.The most striking alteration is in the QUALITY of the muscle,as a rough,shapeless muscle is transformed into Flex Wheeler-like quality.Don't get too exited though.The administration of PGF2 is no walk in the park.What's more,the bodybuilders'muscles become so hard that it's difficult to move their limbs.When they're under the bar,the pump is so quick that their performance suffers.It's even worse for steroid users who start using PGF2.They rapidly discover that they can hardly train any more.In fact,simple tasks like walking become tiresome.Their muscles get so pumped up that any motion is painful.Benching an EMPTY bar for more than five reps looks like an impossible dream.Sweat pours off them.The only way out is to discontinue steroids while on PGF2.Once they resume steroids at the end of the PGF2 cycle,they're in for a big surprise.They start to respond as if it was their very first cycle,despite the fact that they'd almost stopped responding to the drugs.Even slow-growing bodyparts such as calves,which weren't responding very much to training or steroids,seem to be sensitized.Obviously,PGF2 counters the genetic tendency that limits muscle growth.One of the most obvious explanations is that it produces a strong muscle-androgen upregulation.The fact that the combination of PGF2 plus androgens produces such a powerful effect also indicates that they somehow interact.Here's what scientific literature has to say about it:Obviously,prostaglandins need receptors in the muscles in order to work.PGF2 receptors are called FP receptors,while the PGE2 versions are EP receptors.The more you have,the better.Androgen is a controller of muscle-prostaglandin-receptor density.That's the reason that stacking PGF2 and androgens produce such an exaggerated effect.Testosterone can induce the release of prostaglandins as well,and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that training upregulates prostaglandin receptor density.Even more interesting is PGF2's ability to INCREASE androgen receptors.It's likely that long-term training-induced increases in androgen receptor density are are in great part due to the increase in prostaglandin secretion.It's also likely that prostaglandins facilitate the cellular uptake of androgens by increasing the muscle membrane fluidity,making it more permeable to testosterone.Clearly,androgens and prostaglandins are made to work together.Although,(unfortunately)drug users cannot fully benifit from the synergy,as using the two together causes a reaction that is TOO strong.-----Interesting reading,eh?    | ||
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Cool Novice 
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is there such thing as oral prostaglandins heard it was the key ingredient in MEP ,a supplement from www.carvagen.com so of my friends use it and got great gains. what is your thoughts? ------------------  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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tried .25 cc's in each delt only once and i will say this... if you really want to feel miserable go for it! Imediate flu like symptoms that pass within an hours or so followed by intense muscle contraction. Argh... it really feels pretty horrible. i would like to see direct results from anyone... like inches gained... weight before and after, some sort of controled study. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Yes,I have heard Dharkam mention of the oral version before.But from what I gathered by his statements,they weren't very effective. [This message has been edited by HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex (edited September 13, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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He Huck great info. I still think serious gains only come if used together with roids. But as a fat killer, nothing beats it. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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HaHa!JEFF_RYS,I wrote that with YOU in mind,heh,heh.How are you doing bodyfat-wise?Could you give me a description of how it has changed your body composition(bodyfat%/size lost off waist,etc.)?I'm going to be trying it out soon! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I'm bumping this in hope that some mods/vets might be interested.I haven't seen this one in the archives yet. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Good info Huck! Getting the information together before you take the plunge, eh? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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EXACTLY bro.I have been pesterizing the shit out of poor ol'Ranger with all my friggen questions,haha. | ||
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Cool Novice
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Great post Huck!! I've been wanting to try this stuff for a while, but I still want to get more info from anyone that has tried it before I do. | ||
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Moderator 
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Bro, Good reading, and I don't mind the questions at all...I once again agree with Jeff rys 100%!!! It sheds fat like no other drug I've used...You EVEN feel leaner after the first " SWAMP " episode!! BUT, I can't say it enough...PGF2A is not for everyone, the sides in someways out weigh the gains, and you got to stick with it and endure.....It's not a one shot a week miracle like test!!! And, yes....When I go back on it...I'm going to do it with dbol in the middle of the cycle...let the dbol take effect for 2 to 3 weeks(low dosages)....then start jacking the pgf2a....heh heh heh...We'll see!!! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Holy shit Ranger,you are a MADMAN.But I bet you look absolutely awesome,heheh. | ||
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Moderator
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Nope....Just ain't got anything to live for but my body....I'm gonna die huge, or die in the process that gets me there....heh heh heh!!! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Hey,don't you wanna live for BUNNY?LOL!!! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Ranger I know how u feel man, same way here. LP ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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One last bump for any bros interested in PGF2. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Hi PGF2a lovers (haha). Well Huck, since you ask, here are some results, not final because i am not done yet. It DEFINITLY kills fat, even injected ONLY in the fat. I don't know about measurements, never do that around the waist but: i still need some shots in the abs area, and chest (chest started on tuesday.) My lower back always looks great (well, you know not THAT great) in the morning, but not so good in the evening and it always bothers me. Now since a week and after shooting frequently in that area, my lower back looks as good in the evening as in the morning. Also higher in the back left of the spine (about 3 inches up from the hip) i always had some fat, not much, but no mather what it never would go away. But now it is gone, hopefully for ever thanks to the injections there. The abs area takes longer (already a difference is showing) because i always get under the injected fat a thickness on the muscle that goes away after a week. So i wait untill it is gone to start again. Still i will not loose an inch around the waist, i don't have that much fat there. For someone with much fat it can take some serious time, but it can be done. If not in one cycle, then 2 or 3. If ever i get definit results i will post it and i will be h a p p y. He Ranger, you are going at it again soon ? ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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As always,thank you very much for your input JEFF_RYS. |
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posted September 13, 2000 12:55 PM