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 (Please Help) Drug testing for work! (Urgent)
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 25 |
say i go to work for a retail store that requires you to take a drug screen such as best buy or circut city. are these tests for street drugs like marajuana, cocain, etc. will clenbuterol show up in these screens or are they for just street drugs. also, how easy/hard is clen to detect and will it fuck up the test results. i cannot fail the test!     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 592 |
From my information I have the test at those stores is simaliar to the test done at the olymipics they test for all the drugs banned by the IOC. This includes street drugs, and preformance enhancers, epo and they are now testing for HGH. Good Luck. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 786 |
No it won't show up because they aren't testing for it. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 592 |
Yeah, I was just messing around, they only test for drugs like weed, coke, that kind of thing, don't worry about it. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 37 |
THE TEST THEY GIVE FOR JOBS DOES NOT TEST FOR STEROIDS. THE TEST FOR STEROIDS IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND THE BASIC DRUG TEST IS FOR 5 OF THE MOST COMMON ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES IE: WEED, COKE, HEROIN ETC. MY JOB MADE ME TAKE A DRUG TEST BEFORE I WAS HIRED AND I HAD NO PROBLEMS. AT THE TIME I WAS ON THREE TYPES OF GEAR. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
mukes you relly had me scared there. so you guys think i'll be alright. i have to get tested within 24hrs from now and i stopped taking it yesterday. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 667 |
Don't write off clenbuterol from a drug screen just yet! Clenbuterol is very similar in structure to the amphetamines class of drugs, and a very general, non-specific drug screen could show a false-positive for amphetamines (speed, meth, crank, even ecstasy). Hopefully, the employer won't just work from the screen, and a confirmation test will show that the false-positive is not a drug of abuse. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 23 |
they just test for pot ect. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 49 |
Gymratsd is right, clen does have a structure that is quite similiar to that of amphetmines..good luck with the test | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 99 |
When you take the test say that you used Ephedrine and NyQuil within the last 24 hours. They both can cause fake positives for amphets. And thus you will have your ass covered in case the Clen shows up. BTW jobs test for different drug chains including, opiates, cannaboloids, amphets, hallucins, etc. Steroids are not tested for. Don't worry bro. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 667 |
Hey, Deltzilla, not to rant, but... Say you did use the ephedrine story and then you screen a false-positive for amphetamines. Then the company does a confirmation, doesn't find any drugs-of-abuse, doesn't find ephedrine, but then finds clenbuterol (and it will be found in a confirmation). Then, not only will you be found using an illegal drug, but also a liar. Not a good thing when one is trying to get a job. | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 5 |
Now I don't have any experience with a confirmation test, but he sounds about right on that. Perhaps it would help if we could tell him how long it takes for amphetmines to clear the system? You could always do what my sister did. She took a urine test for a goverment agency. We all knew that she would fail. She passed and had us all wondering about the accuracy of our prior opinions of her. Turns out she paid someone who was clean for their urine and took it in with her to the test, in her pants. Then she opened it up, I think it was in a plastic baggie or something like that, and filled the cup. I remember telling her that I could not believe she bought a bag of piss! Anyways, she passed. She got the person to fill the bag that morning before she went for the test. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 667 |
It that was the case, then the testing procedure was done very poorly. Most will have the individual either nude in a hospital gown before the test or at least in just undergarments. Then there is a thermometer reading on the urine receptacle to make sure the temperature of the same is high enough to indicate that it was a recent bladder evacuation. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 99 |
I'm surprised that worked b/c they usually test for temperature too. To clear up what I said, they usually ask you if you took anything prior to the test so you just tell them the ephed and NyQuil. As for a confirmation test I have never heard of it...and I get tested all the time. Every recreational drug is undetectable in urine after 10 days, except pot which is about 3-30 days depending on a shitload of factors. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 667 |
A drug screen, depending on the drug to be tested for, is only about 85-95% accurate. This means that not everything will be excluded from the test, such as clenbuterol from an amphetamines screen. A good employer will look at the result and ask for a confirmation to be performed, meaning they want to know exactly what was in the person's body that cause the test to show up positive. This is the test that will actually say "positive for methamphetamines" or "positive for clenbuterol" or even "no drugs found". The screen is a very quick and inexpensive test to be performed. These can be done within a small testing lab, a doctor's office, even at home. The confirmations require much more time in sample preparation and testing procedures, and require equipment that most labs will not have, hence the expense of the confirmation test. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 70 |
this is being blown way out of proportion. i've had many drug test while on gear. never have tested positive for anything. don't worry about it. if your still not sure, go buy some herbal cleanse or any type of cleansing tea from a health food store, mainly a more hardcore one not GNC. and ask the store what they recommend. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
alright, i am worried now. all i want to do is pass the test. how long will liquid clenbuterol stay in your system after you stop. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 667 |
quote: Clenbuterol should be out of your system after four days. This was not meant to be "blown out of proportion", but to make those concerned more aware of their situation. I'm giving facts. I've done the tests personally. I know what can happen. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 23 |
The day before and the day of just drink an ass load of water. Don't do the test first thing in the morning. Let all of the urine thats been in thier all night come out. Just drink alot......... | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
cool thanks guys | ||
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Novice
Posts: 5 |
Actually, gymrat, I took the same test as my sister a few months later for the same outfit. I didn't have to put on a gown or get in my undies. They just gave me a cup and pointed the way to the bathroom and told me to fill it up. I do believe you that it is probably different in different places and for different companies. I guess she just lucked out. I think, however, that she knew how they were gonna do it. Peace bro. p.s. to the original poster. I think they said it takes six to ten days to get outta your system. See if you can get it scheduled after that time by being sick or something, if you are that worried. Hope it all goes well with you. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
i took one of those over the counter drug tests and one of the drugs it tested for was methamphetamines. since clenbuterol is basically in the same category as amphetamines i thought this might give me some insight. after a few minutes i added a couple extra drops of urine because it wasn't regitering right. a few minutes later bars were across all the drugs. so i passed. istopped taking the clen tuesday morning. do you guys think i should take the real test tomorrow(thursday) or get more water through my system and wait till friday for a better chance. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 124 |
Take a resevoir full of someone else's urine. Attach a piece of aquarium tubing to it. Shove the resevoir up your ass and glue the bottom of the tube to the underside of your dick. Trim some body hair and glue that onto the tubing to help disguise it. When you are given the cup, pull out the stopper from the tubing and fill er up. Because the reservoir is in your ass the urine will be the right temperature and everything. It's foolproof. Wait a minute, did you say "Best Buy"...I thought you said "FBI". What kind of stupid ass country do we live in. No offense, but its a $7.50 an hour job. Who gives a rat's ass if you are on drugs. The lowest payed dude who works for me makes $67K/ year. We don't drug test...we fire people who don't work. Why is it legal to give a drug test and not an IQ test? zeke_b | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 347 |
First thing you guys have to understand about drug testing is that it is all up to the employer as to what drugs they wish to screen and at what levels they wish to accept. It is NOT a positive/negative test (except under certain conditions). My wife is a forensic chemist with a tox lab, and she has seen many times people with high levels of one drug, but is considered negative because the employer was not testing for that specific drug. Also, the pass/fail criteria is concentration dependant. One person can fail at low levels while another can pass at that same level because the first employer wanted very stringent levels while the latter was more lax in his/her levels. Think about it, an airline pilot will not have the same drug panel as a janitor. The more drugs tested for in a panel, the more it costs, and the lower the detection limit the more it costs. So why pay for this for a guy who is gonna make $5-8hour? Like GYMRAT stated, clenbuterol may be found on an amphetamine panel, since it should fall under the primary amines. All drug tests are two parts: a screen, which gives rapid negative results, and a confirmation, which is very sensitive and tells you what drug you have. All positives on the screen must be confirmed by Gas Chromatography/Mass Spectroscopy. Clen will probably be found as a peak that will not be one known for the illegal amines of abuse, and they will count it negative, or they may be able to do a database search to determine what it is that they found. Finally, no employer tests for steroids. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 4 |
A coworker of mine tested positive for "meth" and he said he was using Ephedrine. I don't know the guy (he's a dickhead) but he's still working there...so he got off. Have that excuse ready. By the time you have to do the followup test it should be out of your system. What is it 48hours or so in your system. That or play it safe like Zeke and shove that piss-bag up your ass. (hahahaha) Sorry...dude...but that WAS funny. |
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posted September 13, 2000 10:58 AM