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BBldrMurph

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posted September 12, 2000 02:48 AM

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I don't know what to think anymore. Over in one corner I have Paul Borreson telling me to use massive amounts of gear. Another end I have people giving advise on insulin without ever even using it. Bodybuilding mags give us the latest "Info" about the newest supplement and how it has "Roid-like effects." Attention Mr. Zulak.
What I am getting at is I wish Dan were still around. He at least would tell you what he thought about gear, a product or whatever you asked him about. I am not saying that all of what he thought was correct, (Flavone X and Hmb) but I respected his opinion about the sport and his assesment of gear. The guy used himself as am experiment to find out if something works.
My question to you guys is who do we trust? Will Brink? Jeff Feliciano? Your guess is as good as mine. I just wish he were still around.


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Pharm Animal

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posted September 12, 2000 03:21 AM

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great thought bro....i do miss him too

he was a true guru in every sense of the word....and plus he was a crazy ass MOFO!

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 12, 2000 03:33 AM

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I miss that guy tremendously.Agree with his philosophies or not,he was always entertaining and breaking new ground.A dozen years ago,he was the ONLY source of info we had on A/S.I don't know if there will ever be anyone else like him.He was a highly ingenious,crazy-ass,guinea-pig.And he was funny as hell too.What a sense of humor.He truly was a guru.


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guitarzan

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posted September 12, 2000 05:36 AM

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Hey I'm really interested in this guy. About six months ago I decided to start lifting again and I read a couple of articles that Dan Duchaine had written. I didn't know that he was dead at the time. After reading about his death, I believe from renal failure, it really bothered me that him and a couple of other steroid gurus have died. If steroids are so safe, why are these guys dropping? Not that I'm afraid of death, I could give a shit, as long as I look good in my coffin, but it goes against the whole philosophy of this board and the steroid underground, that AS is harmless. Can any of you guys point me in the right direction to learn about this guys life and death, articles, websites, whatever?


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fistfullofsteel

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posted September 12, 2000 05:41 AM

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The man was brutality honest and he promoted the sport not himself. I definitely miss him too.


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guitarzan

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posted September 12, 2000 07:15 AM

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Nevermind, I found a ton of stuff. Some of it the funniest I've ever read. I was crying from laughing so hard at one of his articles about his buddy who smuggles toilets, www.qfac.com/-danarchy/danarchy_13.html
check it out, if you haven't already.

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Spike

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posted September 12, 2000 10:23 AM

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That's some funny sh!t guitarzan. Got any more?


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Doc Ponch

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posted September 12, 2000 11:24 AM

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Yeah, Dan was definitely the man. Here's what he had to say about some of the other guys out there.

The Doctor

Steroid state of the art & the new gurus....

There are a few new steroid gurus on the scene. So far (but I could be wrong on this assessment) none of them have advanced steroid use in a practical sense. The three new ones are:

Paul Barrassen out of England. Supposedly he has the practical experience of yours truly, but with a college degree in chemistry and biology. I have never met Paul, but I have read his book �The Anabolic Edge�. My problem in accepting his recommendations is that many times he will make a statement that really doesn�t have any basis in scientific fact or research. For example, granted, there may have a difference in steroid receptors in different mammals, but this doesn�t mean that veterinary steroids are tailored for those receptors. Regardless that Borressen has a college degree, he appears not to be very smart. His steroid dosages (at least for the genetically gifted) are staggeringly high, in the �grams per day� range. I can�t outright say that such dosing schemes are ineffective, but they are possibly dangerous. But his mantra will be enticing to the myriad wanna-be�s in the steroid subculture: to give the hopeless hope again by implying that size is just over the horizon if only you would use enough steroids.

Bill Roberts: I should say beforehand that I intensely dislike this man. More than any other person in bodybuilding, actually. I won�t get into the reasons why, as I feel that Bill is his own worst enemy, and he is doing a great job of illustrating to the world why he is such an asshole.

Roberts is a graduate student, and most of his studies centers steroid theory and chemistry. Up only recently, his knowledge was usually steroid trivia-type stuff: why, chemically, a steroid does or does not do some action. He has been advocating starting a steroid cycle for a pretty high dose of steroid, at the 1-gram a week or more. Yes, many steroid neophytes have gained some nice size on this regimen, but we really don�t know if the extra milligrams really helped. What Roberts has done is to more precisely explain much of the steroid arcana that was already being done. IE: The importance of estrogen conversion, cycle length, the fallacy of pyramids, or tapers, for that matter. His advice applies mainly to the occasional and recreational steroid user. Roberts has not venture into the professional bodybuilding arena like Borressen does.

Lately, I must admit that Roberts is beginning to theorize into valid applications. He was the first to point out that Anadrol 50 does not appreciably aromatize to estrogen, a long-held belief because the rampant gynecomastia seen in its users. His hypothesis is that Anadrol 50 has cross-reactance with progesterone receptors, similar to mibolerone (Checque drops). This would explain a number of side effects from Anadrol. The gyno can be caused by too much progesterone in men. The down-regulation of natural testosterone secretion is also affected by progesterone. Progesterone causes insulin resistance, that will cause an increase of appetite and an acceleration of bodyfat. For example, synthetic progesterone, Megace, is used in wasting-syndrome victims for weight gain. It is mostly fat-gain, though.

It is one of my postulations is that such steroids that cause progesterone effects are valuable for fat loss while on low calories. If you can resist the increase of appetite, progesterone can be thermogenic (from its uncoupling action on cells), and insulin resistance is beneficial for using fatty acids as a primary fuel source. Both growth hormone and ephedrine cause a slight insulin resistance, both favoring fat burning.

Roberts has also proposed that Winstrol (stanazol) might be acting as a weak progesterone antagonist, and that this explains why Winstrol users claim a fat and water loss from it. Roberts has proposed a stacking of Anadrol 50 with Winstrol, to negate the progesterone effects. And I think that this is a bona-fide advancement of practical steroid use. I hope that Roberts continues his creative postulations, because we need such advancement.

Dharkman: Well, I know this guy�s real name, but he loves being mysterious. This is his main problem, his secrecy. Dharkam has some unusual ideas about how steroids work (or more importantly, don�t work), but he doesn�t to give up his references. I�m assuming that in his home country (France) he has access to some very smart doctor/researchers doing work in steroid theory who give him broad suggestions on specific areas that should be explored. As much that Bill Roberts dislikes me, he really hates Dharkham, called him that �fucking frogman�. Dharkham believes that there is an array of enzymes in the muscle cells that de-activate the steroids from attaching to the receptor. He also believes that the muscle membrane can affect steroid transference under the influence of various compounds, mostly lipids. Roberts vehemently (and I really mean vehemently) thinks that this is complete rubbish and this is being kind), even though Dharkham, at times, have responded with supporting research (at least with the deactivation scheme). Dharkham does make some very unusual steroid statements that he can�t (or won�t) explain. IE: he has stated that blacks respond to Equipoise better than non-blacks because of their acceptance of androgens.

Unfortunately, Dharkham has been married to his prostaglandin project over the last year, refining his idea of local injections of prostaglandin and IGF-1 can cause local muscle growth. I�ll see if he�s interested in getting back into the steroid scene.


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted September 12, 2000 11:42 AM

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Guitarazan- Dan Duchaine didnt die from kidney failure related to drug use. His kidneys were congenitally bad (ran in the family)-called Polycystic kidney disease. I cant remember the exact cause of death but it wasnt drug related at all.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted September 12, 2000 11:48 AM

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From the reports I read,he actually died from a strain of influenza.Evidently he refused to go to the doctor,holed up in his house,and a friend came in after not hearing from him,and found him dead.


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guitarzan

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posted September 12, 2000 04:33 PM

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Your Moms Kneepads, you're right, supposedly he had this disease his whole life or something. If anyone wants to read more stuff just throw in a search. You'll come up with all kinds of stuff. The interviews with the Sandwich are really funny, too.


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BBldrMurph

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posted September 12, 2000 05:16 PM

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You can still find some Duchaine stuff on www.qfac.com. This is Dan's best friend's site, Shelley Hominuk who even wrote a book about Mexico gear called, "Anabolic Enhancement With and Edge."
Check out "Bodyopus" and the "Underground STeroid Handbook 2" on this site as well.
Did you guys ever read the MM2K that he wrote called "Blue?" It was a whole story about a fart. Somehow this guy who was squatting with a power suit on was always farting. Somebody put a match to his ass on the down part of the squat and due to the suit being so tight, a flame shot out of the top of his suit and let a blue flame out by this guys collar. I laughed so hard when I read that.
Thanks for the replys folks. I was wondering if more people felt the same way I did about Dan.


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