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Pro Bodybuilder 
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I have noticed this trend lately over the last three weeks how all these guys have been admitting that they are getting ready to start their first cycle. And these are "vets" with hundreds of posts. Yes, we have gone over it time and time again that posts don't mean anything. But newbies to both gear and to the boards, more often than not, think so. I've noticed that a few others like myself have begun calling this issue into the spotlight with a few of the boards members. Don't get me wrong here and think that this is a blatant flame. The fact that you put in so much time trying to help out someone is admirable. I understand that you are doing something that you feel is the right thing. But it's not. If you have never cycled, you have no business giving advice. Do you realize how badly your advice could potentially hurt someone? The main reason I am posting this now is because of the amount of bad advice that I have been seeing come from the keyboards of these guys. Heresay is one of the biggest reasons why AS is illegal. Don't fuel the fire...     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 771 |
Bchem, it's like E2 said last time this came up about 24 hrs ago... You can get hundreds of post on that chat board in a week and they follow you here. sorry I wasn't finished.. and there are a lot of people just regurgitating info they read that is no good to start with. Sometimes it gets quite comical. Well maybe not if someone acts on it. [This message has been edited by ulter (edited September 11, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 453 |
I know...but I'm referring to the guys who only really post here. I have posted only once in the chat area but I still read over there from time to time just to get a feel for what's going on. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 949 |
Badkins, little buddy you listening? Read my friendly non-confrontational response in "BAM BAM'S" post. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Twisted_Steel (edited September 11, 2000).]  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 524 |
Sorry guys, I will try and research my advice more b4 I supply it. I agree with you two, no advice is better than bad advice. ------------------ Work With Your Back And With Your Brain | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 75 |
Ya know this subject pisses me off too! I'm pretty new to the board and can already tell that I know way more than some of these so called Pros. They are probably just like sust-man bumping every fucking post to get their #s up. Half of em are probably fuckin High School Kids! | ||
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Moderator 
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I agree completely with you bchemist, i don't care how much one has read, you shouldn't give out advice to people if you have no experience with the drugs. I mean come on, i've seen tons of websites out there that claim to know everything about anabolics and they're completely wrong on so many things. Imagine some guy who reads this website, then suddenly feels as though he's the new 'steroid guru' he then goes out and advises people on how to use juice, the whole time he has no clue what he's doing and unfortunatly he doesn't know that he's just about to fuck someone else up. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 23 |
I agree 100%. This is why I don't post much (being that I'm on my first cycle now). I usualy only post when I have a question that I couldn't answer through the search. I noticed a while back that people would say they never cycled before and in another post they'd give someone advice. How can people do that? I can't bring myself to do that, even if I know what the likely response to the post will be. I say if you do give someone advice and you never used gear, then at the very least tell them that you've never used. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 97 |
Friends, I can think of a number of guys over the years, that recieved a good dose of gyno, because of posts like that... thats not fair, please think before you post. Thanks DOGGY | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 76 |
I have wanted to post a similar topic many times. This board can be a great place to get advice from the real experts, and we have experts from many different fields. But some of the so called pro's like someone else said earlier are probably just high school kids. One so called pro(won't mention any names)I've seen give cycle advices to many people. Then in some other threads I've seen him admit he's 18, and not too long ago admitted he can't wait to start his first cycle. Anyone can come to this board and read and ask questions, but if you're 18 and have never done a cycle, then you have no business giving people advice for their cycles, and if you do then you deserve to get banned from the board. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 377 |
guys, I'm guilty of giving advice without experiance. Someone had to email me telling me how harmful it could be to someone if I accidently gave them the advice. I'm gonna have experiance soon enough, I'll give advice then, for now I'll ask questions and back other people up if I know that their advice is correct. But then again, if I see a creatine post I'm jumpin on it and lettin you hear what I know. BChemist, thanks for the email bro. And Kosh, you can mention my name, it's okay. I thought I was all knowledgable and shit, and i still think I know enough to get started myself, but I never really thought that I shouldn't give advice since I had no experiance. However, I totally agree with you guys, and I'll stop. [This message has been edited by cantgetlayed (edited September 11, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 453 |
Huh? I didn't e-mail you.... But I'm glad that you read and respect what I said here.... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 377 |
well somebody emailed me, who goes to my gym, aboutyour exact thread. so i figured he was you, being that he emailed me last night. later ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 347 |
cantgetlayed... i wouldn't have known that you did not juice before...your advice <that i have seen> is very substantial and solid....good luck with your virgin cycle and let us in on the details! by the way....BUMP, so that Bchemist doesn't go unheard ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 89 |
Bro's, Im happy to stay on 10 posts if the need be. Its one of these hard situations as a bro could have a good knowledge on A/S but never done a cycle. Hell how do we know if any of the bros here are actually useing we could all just be talking about A/S use but never actually doing it. Can you see my point...? ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 453 |
I see your point, but that's not THE point I am making. I am posting this here because of the dozen or so who feel they truly understand what they are putting into their body, but have no experience to be absolutely sure if what they are saying is accurate. Huck posted awhile ago stating how he found that he gets progesterone based gyno from doses of deca as low as 200mg per week. And yet I see these guys who never cycled who recommend anywhere from 400-600mg of deca per week. And they also recommend deca to be stacked on top of equipoise. When enough of this mis-information gets passed around and enough inexperienced people repeat it, now everyone is confused and screwed up. I'll admit that my advice is not perfect, but at least I have experience to back it up. I know what works and what does not. You just think you do. That is a HUGE difference. So don't feel that you have to contribute in every thread just to be in this "fraternity". By doing so, you are just pissing off the REAL vets of AS and downing your own credibility. To be safe, a newbie has to start off small. That is the only way he can be sure he will not get some horrible side like gyno. And yet everyone with no experience seems to think that cycle #1 should be Captin Insane-O. Bump because I'm sick of repeating myself on this issue. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
The great thing about the internet is the information available, the bad is you must judge the source of the info. I don't want to tick anyone off here, but, I wouldn't trust anyone's advice, unless they also back it up with cold hard facts from actual research (which can also be doubtful, but don't get me started). There is so much misinformation, because people give opinions rather than facts. Just because we've shoved a needle in our ass, doesn't make us any more knowledgeable about the use of steroids. Even the experts don't know how steroids cause muscle growth (how it works with AR's is known, but evidence points to it working in other way(s) that aren't known). People can't even agree that AR does not downregulate (I agree with Bill Roberts on this one as all his arguments make sense). What's the old saying about free advice, it's worth what you paid for it. I guess it boils down to this.... just because you've juiced doesn't mean you're qualified to give advice, and just because you haven't, doesn't mean you aren't qualified to give advice. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 417 |
Heh.. yeah there are a lot of parrots on here. I think the information that people are spitting out should be mainly based on PERSONAL experience... On the other hand, if you have chemical know-how (ie: scientist, doc, pharm.. etc) or whatnot then that is ideal too. I think everyone is just getting sick of the parrots on here.. Bchemist made a good point about someone getting gyno off 200mg of deca- while others with little or no experience blurb out dosages and combos of drugs like McDonald's hands out Big Macs. People react differently to drugs. I've heard of some people having problems with the "all hailed no side-effects" primobolan. STOP BEING A PARROT PEOPLE!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 264 |
I thinking throwing out some advice is good even if you are being a parrot. just make sure to say you have heard this, or you tried this or whatever...hey i would rather have more advice, good and bad, then less advice, only good. Due diligence will sift out what you really need to know. I think this general discussion board needs all the input it can get. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 302 |
I made a post about a week age asking what drugs everyone has used and how they would rate them. That might have given a good indicator of who has experience with what drugs but it did'nt get as many replies as I would have hoped. Maybe I'll post a similar topic and see what transpires. |
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posted September 11, 2000 08:48 PM
