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 Depressing News out of Mexico..Please Read
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 81 |
Hey Bros. Just got back from TJ. I now have it from very sound sources(and many here know who I am talking about)that Veterinarian Distributors in Mexico have very little time left before the Mex Govt puts the hammer down. This "little time" may not even constitute til the end of the year. The "hammer" would be having all Vet products controlled. What this means to the average- joe- steroid- seeking person is that your access to bulk juice will be severely constrained if not limited altogether while shopping South of the border. If the Vet drugs end up being controlled(it is inevidible), you will have to have a script to purchase them and you absolutely will not be able to buy in bulk. What this means is "maybe" you are able to buy 3 Ultragans for your "dog"(at the most). Probably the worst thing about this law taking effect, is that the Federales will be able to bust a person carrying product on the street. Right now they can't really do anything about them if you happen to be busted while carrying on your person in the streets of TJ. But once they are controlled, you better have a script from a legit Doctor stateside saying you have a right to be carrying AAS. Otherwise as an alien to Mexico, the Script you have attained from a Mexican doctor will be useless in the cops eyes. You will be charged with a serious crime and the punishment would more than likely be severe. Unless you happen to be carrying a substantial amount of cash on your person, it could be ugly. I'm not saying this to scare anybody. I just think people should be aware of the changing laws that are coming. I personally think it sucks and it will drive the black markets up to unseen heights. I hope that something happens to change all of this in the near future, but what is needed is a miracle. If Damien or anyone else knows anything to the contrary of what I have been told, please do tell. Saddened/Pissed off, TD     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 304 |
dont tell me that in two years ill be reminising bout the 'good ole days' when i could use a domestic source and have my gear in a few days...this is gonna sux! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 572 |
Although I don't frequent the Mexican scene being north of the border, I know alot of sources and others do. That really sucks and would no doubt have, at least, an indirect effect on most of us! My horses, dogs and cats are pissed! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
You're right TonyD...YMK and I posted about this a few weeks ago- nobody seemed to care...ALL mexican vet steroids (and Ketamine) are being re-scheduled as Schedule I narcotics in Mexico...S.A.G.A.R. has already written the new "norm"...the pharmaceutical companies have now been given 2-3 months to present evidence as to why these products shouldn't be controlled, then after that- the gov't makes their final decision. It really sucks, because alot of the larger pharmaceutical companies in mexico INCLUDING FORT DODGE MEXICANA are in favor of this new legislature... Main reason this is happening- U.S. gov't influence on Mexico's gov't...since late '99 the U.S. DEA has been in mexico (especially the T.J. area) working with Mexico's Judicial Federal Police, basically screwing with the vet shop owners/suppliers who sell Ketamine...just keeping "tabs" on the main suppliers legit distributors in Mexico. The main focus of this new law was never vet steroids- it's always been just Ketamine- steroids were added as a side-note. Like YMK posted, most vet shops in the tourist/border town areas of mexico will close down because their income is dependant on steroid sales and not dog food, chicken feed, rabbit sales...As far as pharmaceutical companies go- Brovel, Tornel, Aranda, Ttokkyo won't "close shop" because these companies produce other bioligicals besides steroids and K...But Denkall/Salvet will be forced to shut down because they market no other products in mexico besides steroids- I'm not trying to flame Denkall, this is a fact and it's no secret south of the border. Funny thing is, this new law doesn't affect Pharmacy steroids ie sostenon, primoteston, etc...Strange? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 81 |
This does suck Damien. And few people understand the implications it will have in the steroid using/buying universe. My question is how easy will it be for the shopper to get a script from a Vet store and buy vet products? Or will there be no vet stores to even shop at? Also, how reluctant will a Vet shop owner be(if you find one)to sell in bulk quantity? My vet store owner said she has three doctors on her "payroll" so a script won't be a problem.----But------ She did mention that she is extremely worried about having to close her store once the law becomes effective. Hmmmm.. I wonder if the pharmacies understanding the demand there will be for vet juice, will start selling it "behind the counter"? With the demand being so great in today's day and age, something will have to give. I can't imagine that the Mexican border towns will let such a revenue machine die out. We'll see. TD | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 13 |
Mexico's bordertowns are based on selling pharmacueticals. Eventhough the vet stuff gets controled it shouldn't be a problem getting it even in bulk. People bring tons of pain killers,nubain,temgesic, all the heavy shit with no problem. Just worry about the X-over. Anything comming back is a problem now cause of u.s. feds on both sides. Tj has almost all the juice from around the world now. People do trades now instead of buying. I've seen real sos from the middle east(India)over there. Lots of fakes but still, lots of real shit. If that's possible then anything is possible in Mexico.CASH IS KING! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 867 |
Good info,how bad do you think that will effect my domestic source in Florida or locally? ------------------ Bros before Hos SIG EP 4 LIFE! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 437 |
This action will only effect the small time guys going over to buy a few hundered dollars worth. Mexico is a very poor country. The fact they are making it more strick is simply a smoke screen to appease the US gov. war on drugs. The truth is, that the mexican people just like any other people, the might dollar controls! This is no different than when they started requiring you to have a script to bring in your supplies to the US. This was started to make it harder to get gear and bring it back in leagally. All it truly did was cost us $10-15 more dollars to get a money hungry doc to write one for ya. Things did change but did not stop. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 190 |
what about the stuff you buy in the pharmacies, how are they gonna ban the vet products, are they gonna ban the sten, primotest, and primobolan......the pharmacy stuff also. That is total bullshit, i thought it would never happen. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 225 |
The pharmacies wanna make money. Put a bandaid on your finger and tell them you need AS to heal it, and they'll give you what you need. Nough said. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 825 |
Gear difficult to find in Spain, Italy, Greece. Soon in Mexico. Changes are, more and more people will need to contact sources, so more and more demands on the black market. So ? Yeah right.. prices will go up for everyone. Anyone who wants to continue juicing, better starts buying enough for a few years stock(if possible), unless you get prescriptions. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1356 |
Looks like Mexico is gonna be even poorer than they are now. Stupid move on their part. I am sure a big portion of the pharmacy's business is from selling products to U.S. citizens who cross the border. I am really getting tired of the U.S. influencing other countries to make stricter laws on steroids. Our ancestors came to this country to get more freedom and now we have less freedom over what we put into our bodies than most other countries do. We should have the right to choose what we want to put in our bodies. The gov't will never stop us no matter what they do so why do they keep trying. We outnumber them so we will get whatever we want regardless of laws. Fuck 'em. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
Exactly... Look what happened in Spain, Italy, Greece and even Australia- very hard to find anything in quantity- and the same will be true for Mexico (as far as vet gear is concerned). Unless dealers have a direct line of communication to the actual pharmaceutical companies in Mexico (not just the vet shop where they purchase their stuff from)- they won't have access to any vet gear in quantity after these new regulations go into effect- makes no difference how much money you have. Unfortunately, there will be a ton of counterfeit vet products and if you are able to get your hands on the real deal you can bet it'll cost you($$). The time-line I've been given is roughly less than 6 months of "business as usual" meaning prices shouldn't change, availability shouldn't be affected- after that you'll have another 6 months of being able to buy limited quantity of the products that are currently being manufactured in quantity right now @ higher prices (the pharmaceutical companies are planning ahead, at least some of them are)...then after that, the only thing you'll probably be able to find in any quantity south of the border will be orals/pills- and chances are these will be sold "loose" w/out original packaging. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1356 |
Not too mention the fact that BB has kept alot of the smaller pharmaceutical companies from going out of business. I mean how often are AS actually used by doctors to treat illnesses. It happens of course but the number of BB using roids has got to outweight the number of people using for legit medical reasons by far. Even when people such as AIDS patients are prescribed roids for medical use to prevent wasting, it is in very snall quantities. A typical AIDS patient probably uses in a month what the average BB uses in a week or less. Seems to me that the US gov't is going to hurt Mexico's economy and hurt the business of many of the smaller pharmaceutical companies who sell the cheaper products that are normally used for BB. Our gov't just doesn't make any sense at all. Like I said, FUCK 'EM ALL! This whole country is turning into one big pile of shit. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
Clarification... this new law only affects veterinary steroids and ketamine. Pharmacy/human-use steroids ie sostenon preloads, primoteston, testoprim, sten, stenox, primobolan depot & deca preloads won't be affected...Vet shops will close, pharmacies will prosper. The smart shopper would start stocking up on the vet supplies that he/she usually uses which aren't available in mex pharmacies- dbol, equipoise, deca(unless you like the 50mg preloads), propionate, anavar, etc... [This message has been edited by Damian Borleone (edited September 11, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 190 |
so just the vet market is going to be affected, not the pharmacies? I can live with having to pay the pharmacy price, will just buy a mixture of primobolan and organon redi-ject deca. I know of a pharmacist in deeper mexico, he obtains vet products also, but the pharmacy drugs like sustanon and shit will still be available right. Looks like this is a ploy to stop the transport of drugs/steroids out of the border towns, and yes does the government and vets realize how much money they will lose out on. Say in one week 100 people buy a 50cc jug of Nor200, that is $20,000.00 alone, and that is an analogy of say a border town like TJ, not to mention the mass bought by the big guys with connects. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1356 |
Oh, I was under the impression that you were talking about all steroids in Mexico. So you can purchase real steroids and walk in the streets with them on you but you can't buy the vet stuff. Is it just me or does this sound strange to anyone else?? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 190 |
either way you look at it, this looks like a motion to outlaw all steroids, looks like we gonna have to move to europe. Why ban the vet stuff but not the pharmacy stuff like maverik said, I think this is a start for the U.S. to rain on all steroid users, they are saying we control world drugs, and the people who use steroids we are seeking you out more, maybe these internet sites are not helping the situation, but gosh if you cant talk about it, what kind of freedom do you have? And I dont like the fact that the rich can practically use drugs legally because they can buy them, and pay the fukin government to get their ass out of trouble. What is going to come of this, hell they are even trying to ban Andro! but they cant legalize because they are the assholes who are putting the shit out on the streets. I guess we just have to get a government job so we can do dirt and it halfway makes it okay....yeah right, each day a post like this comes up it frustrates me more and more. [This message has been edited by c-dizzo (edited September 11, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
Yes, that's the law...I have read it, actually had it translated for me since I can't read Spanish...But one thing you need to remember- vet steroids are supposedly for animals, human-use pharmaceutical steroids are for people...The mex government(with the u.s. gov't influence) realized that their veterinary steroids are being purchased by americans for performance/cosmetic enhancement purposes and not by mexican farmers to beef up their cattle...Mex gov't already knows the sostenon preloads are being purchased by tourists- because that's who's supposed to be buying them. Btw, I (and many other informed people) can't understand why the Mexican government would support making these products controlled medications..Take for instance Lab. Brovel- they sold 150,000 vials of Testosterona 200 last year, and they pay taxes to the mex government on each one of those vials that's sold...After this law goes into effect, Brovel won't be selling nearly as many vials of T200- so the Mex gov't will be losing a ton of $$ from lost revenue from the taxes they won't be able to collect. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1384 |
dont know if you will actually see this happen,,this industry brings alot of bucks into mexico...the mexicans would be pretty stupid to turn this busniss away..if it is not available in mexico it will be the opportunity for companies like Lab VM (ganabol) to start making it avaiable...it wont hurt anything | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 715 |
Man that is some messed up shit! They will only be hurting themselves finacially...dumbasses! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 147 |
Tony, I was considering the same thing...I am also interested in the answers to your questions. Email me cause I have some questions.. | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1911 |
I agree with animalb..my stance on this is we will see, Mex aint like the sates or spain or france or whatever - cocaine and speed aint legal there either, and I could buy a grip of that shit - (if thats what I was into) - $ talks just as much in mex as other countries, this is all part of the politics as usual IMHO. And please before you flame ME for stating MY POINT OF VIEW, look at whats happening right now Olympics and Fox taking over old govt out new govt in both want to look good. I dont see a need to stock up. But I always do anyways! LOL! Slopain | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1356 |
Animal B and Slopain; for everyones sake I sure hope you are right. Only time will tell... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 190 |
The Olympics!!!! What about the push or the so-called "New test that indicates testerone use, or use of steroids!" The article about track&field and all other athletes are drug using junkies, for the "highest performing body." We all know that the biggest crack-head used as much as he could, look how can emmit smith play in a fuckin NFL game after or while having a back injury, shoulder injury, arm injury, and a ankle injury.....all at one time, Im not saying Emmit Uses for personal use or abusive nature, but we all know what the shit does, especially WV and orals, purely medicinal use, it must be great to be a professional athlete, hell I even remember a story about that tennis player that they were pushing said had come up with a dirty test for PHD's. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 496 |
Like Damian said it SEEMS as if this will go thru as law but it is possible that only KETAMINE will be scheduled. This is going cause a major shortage temporarily for the domestic market (non Mexico travelers) consumers UNTIL like animalB said the suppliers here get plugged into cental and south american vet sources and feed the market. I personally would stock up if it were me. I know everyone talks about the almighty dollar but the fact remains this- vet supply shops are almost all going to be handcuffed and have their money making abilities so greatly diminished that it isnt going to be in their best interests to to remain open. Remember this- there are almost 1,000 famacias en Tijuana, there are only a few dozen vet supply houses. Guess whose balls are easier to bust?? We shall see my brothers....we shall see... ------------------ |
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posted September 10, 2000 09:46 PM